Nikki Haley announces US presidential run for 2024 (Not Trump please)

That’s one of the biggest things. Primaries are like a game of Risk; every time you lose, your opponent gets a bunch of your “men”. The paid staff are just as ambitious about their own careers as the politicians and will unhitch and rehitch their wagons on a dime.

I believe you misspelled “America” there at the end.

She’s pushing back on Fox’s love affair with Trump. Who can say if it will be effective apart from making them less likely to book her again? Or they’ll try to build it into a real fight?

Most of the polls just closed (a few stay open for another hour, until 8pm local).

And here we go.

3% of vote counted

Trump 53.5%
Haley 45.9%
DeSantis 0.5%

Every time I refresh my browser window for the poll results it changes. Haley gets closer then farther but Trump is always a tiny bit ahead.

I do like DeSantis and his less than 1%.

If you’re using my link above, it automatically changes so no need to refresh.

I prefer AP’s actual site which Yahoo is getting its data from.

https://apnews.com/live/%20new-hampshire-primary-results-updates

And I’m refreshing because I’m looking at different pages, not looking at just the one.

It looks like she’s going to lose New Hampshire, but will finish fairly close.

I predict that she keeps going after tonight.

Yeah. The AP called it for DJT.

17% of vote in.

Trump 54.1%
Haley 45.0%

And “write-in” has a commanding lead in the Democratic primary. Biden wouldn’t let his name appear on the ballot because NH Democrats are having their primary in violation of the schedule approved by the DNC which has South Carolina going first. But he also didn’t want the story out of NH to be that Dean Phillips won the Democratic primary, so his allies have mounted a write-in campaign for him.

I do too. It seems pretty significant that it was so close.

I don’t know why. Obviously, we don’t have the final numbers yet, but (if it holds up) finishing ten points behind Trump in the one state where she had the absolute most going for her isn’t a very good portent.

Yeah, that’s how I’m feeling too. If she loses to Trump by 10% in New Hampshire, she’ll probably lose to him in South Carolina by 20-30%. And then you really see no point in going on. She’ll almost certainly drop out after SC.

Yes.

If considered an incumbent, as he sort-of is from a GOP standpoint, Trump is doing poorly. And incumbent Joe Biden is doing much better despite the disadvantage of being a write-in.

Having said that, I don’t know what the significance is. Do we know how large a portion of Haley’s vote consists of former Democrats who re-registered as Republicans as they voted? And what proportion of them are real converts to Republicanism likely to vote for the GOP nominee? I’m sure it is a low proportion, but if not extremely low, that’s a significant Democratic Party problem.

Can someone explain how proportional means that Trump with 53% in NH gets 11 delegates while Haley with 46% only gets 6? The fact she almost split NH is very good news for her. Will non-Trump Pubs take a risk and throw some support her way now?

In her concession speech, Haley confirmed that she’s “on to South Carolina”.

Now, if she gets creamed in her home state, I do think she’ll suspend. But the pressure is on donald - she’ll pounce on any verbal gaffe he makes before this next election.

Here is how it’s significant to me. Look at these articles:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/newsletters/2024-01-23/new-hampshire-primary-offers-last-call-for-nikki-haley

Trump was ahead in polls anywhere between 15-25% in those articles. I don’t see them projecting that he’d win by less than 10%. So she seems to have overperformed those predictions. In addition, she went from a distant 3rd place to a close 2nd place, so she might have picked up a large portion of potential DeSantis votes when his campaign was suspended.

It’s surely not nearly as important as it would have been had she actually won, but it wasn’t a disaster either.

Now… Will this be the best she can do? If this was her best shot, she’s done. From what I can see, the next step is the Nevada caucuses but she’s not even on the ballot there (she’s on the primary but the primary doesn’t grant delegates) so that’s just going to go to Trump, so it won’t count. The Virgin Islands will also have a caucus but there are 4 delegates there and nobody seems to be paying attention to that.

So South Carolina is the next big one and might be all-or-nothing.

I’m frustrated that the Press has been on the Haley can’t win campaign before voting even began.

Can’t they wait until Super Tuesday and let the voters decide?

A lot can happen. Trump’s trials may change things.

Debate or discussion on issues can influence voting.

I’m encouraged that Haley did pretty good in New Hampshire. She didn’t get crushed at all.

The independent voters made a difference in New Hampshire. I think even more independents will vote in the up coming primaries because they recognize what another Trump term represents.

Interesting but not surprising result.

She said she’s not going to drop out, so here’s my take on other aspects of the race.

She’s going to go balls to the wall now. Trump has won two things, but he does not seem invulnerable, and Haley is fundamentally an ambitious person and can taste those drops of blood in the water. She is not going for VP–it’s POTUS or bust.

She is going to take off the gloves (she already has a bit, albeit a bit late) and start bare-knuckle pounding on Trump. Lemme tell ya, there are plenty of spots to attack!

Sure, she is going to try to get as many delegates as possible, but I think her hope lies (as it should) in one of many trials (literal and figurative) that may afflict the Orange Baboon. She is also going to try to appeal to the Oligarchs to start sending their money her way: Shall we try sanity, hmm, whaddya say?

At the convention, if Trump has a conviction, etc., at that point, or even if he doesn’t, she will try whatever machinations are feasible to get Trump disqualified, etc.

And it might even work.