If I recall my studies correctly, convicts to Oz usually weren’t manacled. If the dynamite came to the island on the Black Rock, then transportation to Australia ended at least a decade before.
Never let a solid fact get in the way of a script writer… I’ll bet the story line will show the Black Rock to be a convict transport, because there was little slave trade in the American sense in those waters, but convict ships aplenty.
It would be typical of a Hollywood writer to assume manacles on a convict ship, without doing the necessary research.
That’s a misunderstanding. In 1863, Nobel invented a detonator for nitroglycerin, which was invented in 1846 by someone else. That’s what it says in Plynck’s quoted text. But nitroglycerin is not dynamite. Dynamite was indeed invented by Nobel in 1866 and patented in 1867 (cite, this is the same link as Plynck’s, who apparently didn’t read it to the end).
Feh. And I didn’t read it at all, expecting these other people to know what they’re talking about.
I’m not sure if this was meant to be a mystery or not. It certanly fits with the mining equipment. I suppose we can call it a mystery until either a) it gets sorted out in the show or b) someone else around here can make sense of it all.
Yep. Crap. Busted. My apologies.
No idea how that happened, except I was obviously in a hurry. Somehow I read that “in 1863, Alfred Nobel invented the Nobel patent detonator or blasting cap for detonating nitroglycerin and dynamite”, and didn’t notice that dynamite wasn’t to be invented for another 3 or 4 years. And it looks like no one mixed nitro with silica before Nobel (or least successfully enough to tell about it 
). So, yeah, the earliest that would place “The Black Rock” would be 1866 or 1867 (there seem to be differing dates for his patent). Now I’m wondering who this fellow was that Arzt was talking about that blew his face off.
If I’m not totally excommunicated, I’d like to leave the meaning of The Black Rock tentatively answered. Chance are that this just comes down to carelessness on the part of the writers, but my post in the Exodus thread questions whether the ship is another misdirection.
While we’re at it:
Who is Brendon (from the transmission), what were the keys, and why did he take them?
How did Martin(?) lose his arm?
What did Danielle mean by “infected”?
Have we asked how Locke became confined to the wheelchair?
Again, my apologies.
Actually, it places the ship later than 1870. The British Dynamite Company was founded in 1871. Since the ship was based in Southampton, and the boxes were labeled in English, it seems logical that if the boomsticks arrived with the ship, then they were probably of British manufacture.
Well, we did have a general question about what happened to the people mentioned in the transmission and we currently have one asking why Danielle killed some or all of them. That should at least cover the “infection”. There’s certainly a story to be told about the people from Danielle’s team after landing on the island and before they died. I think I’d like to include a larger question to encompass the whole thing because there’s probably a lot there we should be wondering about beyond those specifics. Let me try to whip something up.
Yup, we got that one covered with question #9.
Finally, no need to apologise Plynck. Happens to the best of us.
Season 2 starts in less than a week. I’ll admit that I haven’t had time to watch all of season one on DVD yet, but I’m working on it. Anyway, let’s clean up a little.
First, an addendum to post #355:
- What caused Boone’s hallucinations?
Answered: Most likely this was caussed bu the goop that Locke smeared into Boone’s head wound.
Thanks to Oslo Ostragoth
Additional questions:
Was The Black Rock a slave/mining ship, or something else? And if it was, what explains the discrepency regarding the ship having dynamite earlier than it should?
I’ve been going back and forth on the questions Plynck brought up regarding Danielle’s research team and I think it’s best to teave them seperate. Thus:
What were the keys that Brendon took, and why did he take them?
How did Martin loose his arm?
Right now the active questions list looks like this:
- Why did the plane lose radio contact?
- Why did the plane crash?
- How did a polar bear get on the island?
- What is the big monster?
- How has the FT been broadcasting for so long?
- Are Adam and Eve part of that same group mentioned in the FT?
- What’s the deal with the black and white rocks that were found with Adam and Eve?
- What did Kate do to put her in trouble with the law and make her so eager to run from everything? PARTIAL ANSWER
- What exactly was the nature of Locke’s paralysis?
- Why wasn’t Jack’s Dad in the coffin?
- Who killed the boar? Locke or the monster?
- What happened to the tail section of the plane?
- Did anyone other than those accounted for, including Rose’s husband, survive the crash?
- How did the 48 people (initially) survive the plane crash? Was it just luck?
- Did Locke actually see the monster? And if he did, why is he still alive?
- What cured Locke’s paralysis?
- Who are the “Others” that Danielle thinks control the transmission and make the whispering noise?
- Why did Danielle kill the other members of her team (or at least Robert)?
- Is Nadia dead or alive?
- What was the scientific mission of Danielle’s team and why did they need rifles?
- Was the psychic legitimate, and if so, what did he see in his vision?
- Who the HELL is Ethan?
- What does Ethan want with Claire?
- What is the significance of Claire’s baby?
- How did Hugo get the nickname “Hurley”?
- In what way is Hurley known as a warrior?
- What is the nature of Walt’s “special abilities”?
- What is the significance of the song “La Mer”?
- How come Locke’s compass no longer points north?
- How were Boone and Locke changed by their vision quests?
- What’s inside that hatch/where does the door lead?
- Who sealed it and why?
- Why does Claire have amnesia?
- How did Claire escape from Ethan?
- Why did the ocean level suddenly rise and flood the beach they were living on?
- Why was Jin hand-delivering watches for Sun’s dad?
- What do the numbers mean?
- Is Hurley (still) cursed?
- Why was Hurley in a mental institution?
- Who set up the original transmission?
- What happened to Jack’s marriage? PARTIAL ANSWER
- Who sent Kate the letter about her mom?
- Why did Kate’s mom freak out at the hospital?
- What is the significance of the black smoke?
- Was it The Others who took Walt?
- Why do they want with Walt?
- What became of Alex?
- What’s the deal with the transmission Boone heard?
- When did Claire and Danielle meet before - and why did Claire scratch her?
- How did The Black Rock (the ship) get so far inland.
- Was The Black Rock a slave/mining ship, or something else? And if it was, what explains the discrepency regarding the ship having dynamite earlier than it should?
- What were the keys that Brendon took, and why did he take them?
- How did Martin loose his arm?
Last minute revisions are welcome. If there are none, this is the list I’ll start the season two thread with. Remember, the list is constantly in flux. All questions can be changed, answered or removed later.
So are you planning to start a new thread for Season 2 questions? Just making sure I don’t miss it. It’s probably a good idea.
No, I’m planning to roll everything in this thread over into the next thread starting with the second season. Two running threads would probably get too complicated with cross season discussions and one big questions thread would probably become unwieldy.
That’s what I meant, but my phrasing wasn’t very clear. I was just making sure there would be a new thread instead of just adding to this old one. Thanks for managing this; it’s a lot of work!
You are very welcome. It has turned out to be more work than I expected, but I’m enjoying it.
48(a) What did Boone hear? “There were no survivors of Oceanic Flight 815”, or “We’re the survivors of Oceanic Flight 815”?
That is included in the question, yes. Some may consider that part resolved, but I’m expecting to hear the other side of that conversation so I’m leaving it open until then (or until otherwise confirmed).
I think this has been partially answered as well. I believe there was a conversation between Danielle and Sayid - the one where she’s explaining about the transmission - and he says something like, “So there’s a power source on the island.” Maybe the question could be reworded “What’s the power source that drove the FT for 16 years? Is it related to the power cable Sayid found on the beach?”
Yes, when Sayid mentiones that the batteries Danielle has wouldn’t be powerful enough to last 16 years, he follows that up with a comment about how there would need to be another power source somewhere. Problem is, it could be something on the island or it may be coming from off the island via the cable. The question as it is currently worded is vague enough to cover both possibilites, so I’m inclined to leave it be.