I think your memory is seriously distorted here, and I think it comes from trying to equate two very different groups of Christians.
Some Christians have been predicting the Apocalypse since Jesus was preaching. In fact, according to the Gospels, Jesus himself preached that the end of the world would come before some of the people hearing him had tasted death. That means it was long overdue by the time the New Testament was actually written, decades after the crucifixion and, as I understand it, after the last of the original disciples had died. In vaguely more recent times, Europe had a massive upswing of Millennial Apocalyptic Hysteria (MAH) around 1000, as the religion has always been big on huge round numbers. When this didn’t happen, new dates were chosen right up through the 1800s, 1900s, and, of course, 2000 was going to be It for the MAH crowd. MAH is just something that periodically happens and then dies away for a while in Christian populations.
There are, of course, happy, perky Christians of the “Live and Let God”/“Our God is an Awesome God” variety. Based on very little, I’ll date the modern version of this to the 1970s Jesus Freak Revival when a number of the hippies decided to bring that long-haired pinko Jew Jesus back to his countercultural roots. They were the ones behind “Jesus Christ, Superstar” and Christian Rock to this day, seriously pissing off people like Jimmy Swaggart and thus earning their place in civil society. I’ve never associated them with MAH, but I could be wrong.
Clearly, you are not paying attention. This is junior high. By definition,* nobody *fits in. Right now, you remind me of the 8th grade girls whose present catchphrase is to sneer “you’re so childish!” at anybody they disagree with or don’t like.
If this were GD, you might possibly have some leg to stand on with this apparent effort to catch me in some logical contradiction of my own position, but it isn’t. This is The Pit, which is not only Junior High, but Junior High during lunch period when the teachers are too busy chatting with each other and thinking about sneaking out for a smoke to give a fuck what anybody does or says as long as there is no outright violence.
Fear. Fear that the country is changing into something that no longer automatically puts white christians at the top of everything. Fear makes people do and say things they ordinarily wouldn’t.
Instead of being able to be flexible about changes, some people react with fear and dread.
Someone gave me a link once to a paper written about this kind of personality. It might have been Marley.
If you’re going down that road, I have to link to “The Paranoid Style in American Politics”, which is the classic article on the subject from November 1964. It wasn’t new even then:
I personally noticed it ramping up to a violent degree in the 1990s, with a number of bombings and other violent acts on the part of self-proclaimed ‘patriots’, and I wonder whether any of the people currently associating with the Tea Party or Sarah Palin are going to become violent idiots if they find out they won’t always get their way.
Well, if this were any other forum, this would be the time for me to hold my hat in my hand (figuratively speaking; I wasn’t really wearing a hat) and say “You are absolutely right; she got the track-jump started, but then other people came along helping to push the train off the rails”.
However, this is not another forum, this is The Pit, so as such, I am force to shove my theoretical hat up your nose and follow up with a hearty “fuck off”!
In point of fact, IF Susanann is the same Susanann who formerly posted on another forum I frequent, which does allow avatars, and who espoused points of view very similar to our Susanann’s – and of course there is no proof she is the same person, but it’s a reasonable hypothesis – what she used there was an Ann Coulter avatar.
Possible because it’s mean and petty and perpetuates denigrating stereotypes?
Am I the only person in the country that doesn’t even know any “middle aged housewives”? The only housewives I know are young women with pre-school kids, and I don’t know many of them.
I know this is the pit, but a denigrating stereotypes is still a denigrating stereotype.
Hopkins is cited as having said it (a) to Governor FDR of New York in 1930 and (b) to a press conference or Congressional committee in 1933. I now suspect from sam’s cite that he was quoting Keynes, who was not yet well known to the public at large.
What I wonder is, when the last drop of oil is really, really gone, if these folks are going to scream that it is all a Leftist Conspiracy. “There’s plenty of oil! Reagan said so!”. I think that even if you had all the expert scientists to explain to them that yes, it’s all run out, they’d refuse to believe it.
Does anyone remember that “what would you take with you if you were time-traveling” thread where Susanann kept going on Yukon Cornelius like rants about GOLD!!!? Not that gold was such a horrible answer to the question, but she just kept acting like it was the only thing that anyone could ever want anywhere, anytime.
I guess it must have been you seeing her death as the silver lining. There’ve been a few here over the years I didn’t like, but rejoicing in someone’s death over Internet dislike is odiously toadish. Or is it toadishly odious? I forget.
I think I know this poster - one moment, please…ah, here we go - I thought I recognized her from her opinions on being childfree by choice (she seems to be against it):
Yeah, she seems to have a lot of special opinions. She also came back to that thread to clarify:
So, without kids your life is a pointless charade, but don’t bother having kids, because you’d suck at it. Got it.
I’ve got to wonder why she’s so eager to pop out a bunch of kids if she is also 100% sure that their lives are inevitably going to be lived out in a dystopian hellhole. I’ve also got to wonder why she thinks a hundreds of millions of immigrants will still want to come to America when it’s a dystopian hellhole.
