Epimetheus
No, but I have dealt with her before and it’s not the first time I have been compared to her. I appreciate her refined sense of compassion and her charity in providing “jack-off material for white misogynists since 1997”.
I lost sight of her once she got booted from shutdown.com. Oh there she is…Six years later and still doing the same shit. It’s inspiring.
Oh, gee, now Reverend is trying to goad me into a Monty Python argument sketch. How amusing.
Hey, I have an idea, let’s take a poll! Anyone besides Reverend and Grendel think I was calling Reverend a sock? Or was I just pointing out that it makes no sense to have no email in one place yet out in the open if one just follows a link?
Please, don’t answer until you’ve seen how I really make accusations of sockpuppetry.
So I gave it some time. I come back to find more distortions and bullshit about me and my position.
I won’t take responsibility for anything in this thread not posted by me. I’ve tried to clarify this, and I understand that the fact that a pileon of RM did in fact occur in this thread makes this difficult to accept, but I didn’t start this thread to dogpile the newbie.
I also didn’t ‘set the tone’ in my OP. As far as I’m concerned, the tone had already been set in the ‘personal experience’ thread started by mhendo. That thread had already gone far into ad hominem territory, with RM attacking iampunha, Munch, RexDart and Bricker among others. Any pileon that occurred had already begun before this thread was posted. I didn’t start anything. I moved it. Here’s a link we haven’t seen: here’s my post in the ‘personal experience’ thread, explaining exactly why I started this thread here.
RM, you maintain that we’re all so stupid that we can’t see how good and how relevant your point really was. This is the first time you’ve attempted to clarify that point, after it spawned 2 pages of bickering in mhendo’s thread and 4 in this one. Until now your tactic has been to talk about Pat Robertson whenever anyone says you’re changing the subject to talk about Pat Robertson.
Above, you say I had a hysterical hissy fit (I assume you’re referring to the OP of this thread). I submit that your very next post above amounts to nothing more than a whining, puling hissy fit because kabbes had the nerve to say that there’s a valid point of view other than your own. You’re throwing a tantrum because I hurt your feelings by starting this thread. You go over the same, tired, hashed-out ground again. I guess you’re hoping that the rubberneckers here won’t page back to the first few posts of this thread where you tried to misrepresent my OP and your previous posts to make me look like the drooling idiot you want me to be; we’ve already been over it.
Ah, I love it: “C’mon Jeff, what’s the point of being devious when anyone can check the first page of this thread and see you are just full of crap.” Indeed.
I’ve got nothing invested in you, Reverend Mykeru. I started this thread because I thought there was a legitimate and interesting discussion to be had in the one you had hijacked, because I thought you had made some bad arguments there, and because I had something to say about that. I’ve said what I had to say. The thread grew from there and took off in directions that I wouldn’t have approved of if I had had any say. I am sorry that this thread provided a vehicle for posters with a bone to pick with you to air some baseless accusations. I didn’t intend for it to be used that way but it certainly shouldn’t have come as a surprise to me given the aggressive way I titled the thread.
I see that you only have the one approach here, and that you’re locked into it. I won’t be surprised when you respond to this post spitefully and maliciously, continuing to distort what I’m saying, what you’ve said, and attacking me personally. If that means you ‘win,’ then so be it. I’ve already explained what goals I had in mind when I started this thread, and those goals have been accomplished. I’m still disappointed in your adoring fans, but maybe that’s just my lack of perspective talking. Good luck around the boards and I do hope that you (and others here) enjoy your stay; I wish I could say that I look forward to future interactions between us that are less acrimonious in nature, but I don’t. I haven’t seen you show a single iota of respect to me or to anyone else here since you showed up, and I don’t have much patience for that kind of behavior.
Have a nice weekend.
Y’know what, you’re all wrong. You’re all equally wrong.
Now can we stop this pissing contest and get on with our lives?
I don’t want to stir the pot, but I want to point out that I was the one tossing accusations around. For Jeff Olsen, or anyone else, to be maligned for what I said, is wrong. I’d also like to point out that I have since apologized for making those accusations. It would seem that those accusations are rather central to the current meltdown. Let’s keep clear on who made them.
And I vow to stand firmly by each and every one of my posts for at least sixty seconds after I post them.
Jeff Olsen
No, Jeff, I’m just correcting your revisionist history.
You really have to poke your head out of this bizarro world that you inhabit. Yes, you are right. I did not place an email link in my profile in this forum. Often I don’t. Yes, I did have an email link on my website because, well, fuck, it’s my website, dipshit. And you know what’s even stranger? It’s not even my mail e-mail address. It’s just a disposable Yahoo email account. Why? Maybe you appreciate getting penis enlargement spam and XXX dog-fuck action spam, but I don’t, and you know, get your email address out there and the spam bots will find you.
But you knew this already. I can’t tell you anything. You are so fucking insightful.
Jeff, what does it matter how you make accusations of sock puppetry in other instances? Do you have a script that you never deviate from? Are you the love child of B1FF and Eliza? Is this in some way related to your tempestuous relationship with your brother? Enquiring minds want to know.
So let me get this straight. Someone accuses me of being a sock puppet. I say that I’ve been posting under “Reverend Mykeru” for years (beginning with alt.binaries.slack, if I recall) and, in fact, I have this domain in the same name.
Then you pop up and say Ah ha! But you don’t have an email link on your profile therefore how do we know that is really your web site?
Uh…you claim the guy posting as “Reverend Mykeru” is only pretending to have a domain “mykeru.com”, yet you are not calling me a sock puppet? What’s your point, that’s it’s all just an incredible coincidence?
Man, you are the Zen master of moronic backpedaling.
White Lightning
I’m sorry, considering your posts in this thread I should have known you had proprietary control of all distortions and bullshit.
Uh huh, you start a thread calling me a “fucking tool” and the pile on is just an incredible coincidence. I see.
Sure you didn’t. A couple distortions and one outright lie in your very first post made the following posts and abberation.
And we have already seen how your statement “as far as I’m concerned” often has little to do with reality.
People can read the first posts and see that I simply stated that if we are going to have a cancer boo-hoo, it should extend to the people Robertson fleeced. Some people interpreted this as “wishing cancer” on Robertson and abuse was heaped on me, not by me. Again, if we are going to talk ad hominem, I need not remind you that I’m not the one who started this ad hominem thread. Oh wait, that wasn’t your intention. I forgot that starting a thread advertising me as a “fucking tool” was an act of sweetness and light. Silly fucking me.
I didn’t attribute it to mere stupidity. I also suggested that your urge to pit a newbie for the fun of it also informed your decision.
I see, so I have to bring up the fact that Pat Robertson is a faith healer and has fleeced people over a long career and then runs off to traditional medicine instead of praying to Jesus without actually mentioning Pat Robertson?
From the first page, responding to charges that I was mocking the pain of a cancer sufferer:
And then:
And:
I don’t think that I failed to clarify. I just think you weren’t fucking paying attention. You got tunnel-vision over a sentence or two and decided to flame away.
Oh no, no, no. The OP in this thread is an exemplar of objectivity and temperance.
Notes obvious psychological projection
No. First, your starting this thread in the first place was the tantrum. Second, your very first post in the thread displayed either someone who is still hooked on phonics or intentionally misconstrued in order to manufacture flame bait.
What WL is saying here is that when he lies and distorts I’m supposed to roll over and play dead. Convenient.
Huh? I linked to the first page, dipshit. Not only because your opening hissy-fit is not only amusing, but it ends with a bit of bullshit about me comparing myself to Pat Robertson (where did you get that?) that gets immediately demolished.
Exactly. I see your bullshit and raise you a link.
Right, keep repeating it was a highjack and maybe someone will start to believe you.
Not at all like the logically air-tight erudition of your first post that not only incorrectly states my position but also contains a glaring error of attribution.
You set the tone in your thread title, in your first post, and your OP contains “baseless accusations”, so what in fuck are you talking about?
I don’t know. Is that an admission of some kind? Probably not.
Pot
Kettle
Black
That was a given, amateur.
And at no time did you sound like a disingenuous asshat.
Or that fact that your righteousness isn’t as cut and dried as you think.
First, I am usually respectful to anyone making an intelligent, salient point. To that extent respect is not earned, it is assumed. But people like you can destroy any respect capital you may have very quickly.
As far as you not having patience for that kind of behavior, coming from the person who started this thread, named it and posted sheer crap right off, it sounds not only very hypocritical, but completely stupid.
Now, since you have comprehension problems I will spell it out for you: Don’t start a pit thread, name me as a “fucking tool” in it and start it off with blathering bullshit intended to distort and slander and then think I owe you respect.
And it goes without saying that you shouldn’t start anything you are incapable of finishing.
Any questions?
Super Gnat
That would be very true, except, of course, that you’re wrong.
NurseCarmen
Which is at least 50% longer than some people in this thread.
You really are some piece of work, Reverend. I hope you stick around long enough to learn that my posts are hardly ever serious and that I do not make baseless accusations of sockpuppetry. As a Federal employee, I’m not even supposed to have an opinion!
Are you seriously still trying to prove that Robertson has hurt people? I say “your tactic has been to talk about Pat Robertson whenever anyone says you’re changing the subject to talk about Pat Robertson,” and, and this is staggering, your response is to quote yourself three times to show how you changed the subject to keep talking about Pat Robertson. That’s just…
I mean, that is really something.
No, you don’t have to bring up Pat Robertson without mentioning Pat Robertson. You don’t have to bring up Pat Robertson at all. That’s you that wants to talk about him all the time. That is, not to put too fine a point on it, why I started this thread (AGAIN): so you would have a place to argue with people about your views on Pat Robertson.
By the way, there is no debate about whether or not you hijacked mhendo’s thread, despite what you may say about it. That thread was about using personal experience as a trump card in a debate over a sensitive topic, and you relentlessly dragged it onto the topic of Pat Robertson’s character. Do I really need to keep explaining that?
Anyway. I can’t believe you’re going to talk trash about my reading comprehension. Really.
You see? Do you see later on where you quoted my post when I said that I was sorry the pileon occurred and that it hadn’t been my intent, though I acknowledged that it was inevitable given my thread title?
I think that the fact that you can write a sentence like that with a straight face immediately after quoting me having said “I’m sorry” should make it pretty clear how far you’re willing to go to keep this conflict going.
Again. I didn’t set the tone. This thread was a continuation of the discussion about Pat Robertson that you started in mhendo’s thread, to which there was a link in the OP of this thread. I didn’t set the tone. The tone was set in the thread that this thread sprang from. Please try to let me know which part of this you’re not understanding because I’m growing tired of explaining the same things so many times. ‘What in fuck am I talking about?’ I’m talking about how I regret that this thread got so out of hand. I apologized for that.
Look. I said my piece. Evidently your knickers are so unrecoverably twisted that you can’t let it go. You like it ‘out of hand.’ Fine. But I won’t participate in it any more. I’ve said what I had to say; I’ve made myself sufficiently clear. You keep coming back to the same points and repeating the same claims as if they haven’t been put to bed already (like asking me where my statement in the OP that you compared yourself to Robertson came from, as if I hadn’t explained it on the first page), and then when I tire of that you say it’s because I started something I can’t finish.
Well… fine. I’m done here and I’m done with you. If that makes you happy, if that makes you feel validated, gloat all you want. I’m not going to waste any more of my time repeating myself for your pleasure. Again I wish you well; again I hope you enjoy your time here at the SDMB; again I wish you a pleasant weekend.
Ladies and gentlemen, Elvis has left the building.
He can join civility, calm discussion, and respect for others. They left this fucking train wreck awhile ago.
What. The. Fuck.
WL, you and others started the personal attacks. You titled this thread with a personal insult directed at Rev, and you piss and moan that he’s being “malicious?”
You apparently can’t disagree with this guy without trotting out some personal attack and you whine because he fights back?
You are an incredible, drama queen, self-absorbed, narrow-minded little shit. As one of the Rev’s “fans,” as you so quaintly put it, I could give a ripe fuck if someone as puerile as you is “disappointed” in me. And frankly, I’m looking forward to my first serious disagreement with him on something. From what I’ve read of him, it could be hilarious to both concerned, since we both apparently don’t take ourselves so fucking seriously as you. Unlike him, I generally don’t engage in debates with idiots, unless I want to entertain myself (wait, we may have something besides a sense of humor and appreciation of sharp satire in common). I don’t think he’s an idiot at all. He just has some unpopular opinions and he’s able to explain them coherently.
What’s your fucking damage? Have you indulged in way too much of what you are named after?
Thanks for proving my point oh-so eloquently Smegma. You are truly a man among men.
Hmmn…
Anybody here? Nope…they all left. Sweet.
Eh-hem…
This train wreck started with the thread title. It grew into a pile-on by gutless, overemotional little assholes on someone who refuses to cave to that.
I have no problem standing up against the lowest common denominator, and will gladly join another being “hassled” for their coherent, well-thought, and substantiated point of view, if, in my opinion, it has merit. Call that the “Don Quixote” in me, but I hate the mindlessness of “community approval” simply for nothing more than the reaffirmation of same. As far as I’m concerned, it’s unworthy of thinking people.
And thanks, Hamlet.
You too are one classy guy Mykeru. You can stoke those embers some more, but I doubt they’ll catch. Really classy though.
Reverend Mykeru and P.T. Smegma , you guys fucking rule!! You both realy post some inspired stuff.
Yep, I’m still here. I suddenly felt the need to come clean on a few points.[list=#][]I like to toy with people and sometimes do so without being aware of it.[]To my knowledge, this is the first time I’ve toyed with anyone on the SDMB.[]I honestly never expected my first post in this thread to be taken as seriously as it was.[]The real reason I took a break from this thread is that Reverend’s continued defense of a non-existant attack was so bullish it completely flummoxed me and I had to take a break.I never intended to completely leave this thread, it’s too amusing. Sort of like Howard Stern except it has Pat Robertson instead of lesbians.[/list] We all on the same page now?
Doubt it.