A poor choice of metaphor, to be sure, but the basic point, er, stands.
Cotton and Rubio throw a tantrum and stink up the room.
After being blocked by Democrats for several days, Cotton (R-Ark.) and Rubio (R-Fla.) used a parliamentary procedure to try to compel votes on amendments that would make Iran relinquish its nuclear facilities before getting economic sanctions relief and require that Iran recognize Israel’s statehood as a condition of any nuclear deal.
The move blindsided Democrats who had been working with Senate Foreign Relations Chairman Bob Corker (R-Tenn.) and ranking member Ben Cardin (D-Md.) to pass the bipartisan bill. Afterwards, Corker offered a grim assessment of the amendment process. Still, the bill is likely to pass eventually, albeit with few alterations requested by the GOP.
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Senators in both parties said Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) would likely have to move to cut off debate on the bill after Democrats sent clear intentions to GOP leadership that they would no longer play nice on voting on GOP amendments.
I mean, yeah, Rs eating there own is fun to watch. But IIUC, governor Abbot is in a wheelchair. Could Smith, maybe, have worded that a little differently, so that it did not sound like it came right out of, oh, a book by Molly Ivins?
What we’ve shown here is that Abbot both figuratively and literally doesn’t have the backbone to stand up to the kooks. I’d call it win-win, as I hop in my hand basket for a trip.
Yeah, no, I didn’t make that up.
I’ve actually met conservatives who argue that the phrase “…and subject to the jurisdiction thereof…” means that the children of illegal residents do not automatically gain citizenship. Since they’re “illegal” they aren’t “subject to the jurisdiction.” i.e., they can’t vote, don’t get counted in the census…and thus don’t get citizenship for their kids.
It’s horribly and sadly wrong, but it is a fringe view that’s out there. (Along with the gold fringe on the flags in admiralty courts, I guess.)
Although I strongly disagree with their proposed amendments, I don’t see what’s stupid about wanting a vote on them. If they are going to throw up one silly amendment after another just to derail the process, that’s despicable but not stupid, but I don’t see any indication that they’re doing even that – the amendments seem to express their sincere position on the issue, although IMO they are wrongheaded.
In a related story, I have always thought that it’s stupid for the leaders of the House and Senate to have the power to indefinitely prevent votes on bills or amendments that would pass if voted on.
Mike Huckabee doesn’t speak Spanish, but he does “speak Jesus”
That would be refreshing. He can start with The Beatitudes.
Sounds like a plot point from The Turner Diaries.
Although I strongly disagree with their proposed amendments, I don’t see what’s stupid about wanting a vote on them. If they are going to throw up one silly amendment after another just to derail the process, that’s despicable but not stupid, but I don’t see any indication that they’re doing even that – the amendments seem to express their sincere position on the issue, although IMO they are wrongheaded.
This bit has irked me for a while.
In my last year of Youth Lege, lo those many decades ago, we started off the weekend sessions with the usual practice run, having one of the students’ bills put up for floor debate. It rather quickly devolved into members working to amend the bill. Eventually, I called a point of order, that we do not amend bills on the floor without forming a committee of the whole, and the process was ended with a motion to refer back to committee.
So, how is it that these guys just blithely ignore Robert’s Rules of Order? Is it because the author was a Brit? I suspect we might complain a bit less about Congress if they did things the right way.
From the article: "The 14th Amendment, King told the panel, ‘did not contemplate that anyone who would sneak into the United States and have a baby would have automatic citizenship conferred on them’.”
Can we use that same logic that the 2nd amendment didn’t contemplate semiautomatic weapons and schools being shot up?
So, how is it that these guys just blithely ignore Robert’s Rules of Order? Is it because the author was a Brit?
That’s a good enough reason for me. It sounds like the first step on the slippery slope to Sharia Law.
From the article: "The 14th Amendment, King told the panel, ‘did not contemplate that anyone who would sneak into the United States and have a baby would have automatic citizenship conferred on them’.
He’s right, sort of. Congress didn’t contemplate anybody sneaking into the US, period, because there were virtually no restrictions on immigration when the 14th Amendment was written.
Sounds like a plot point from The Turner Diaries.
Almost. No Jews in it.
But, Jews, Muslims, tomayto, tomahto, right?
Although I strongly disagree with their proposed amendments, I don’t see what’s stupid about wanting a vote on them. If they are going to throw up one silly amendment after another just to derail the process, that’s despicable but not stupid, but I don’t see any indication that they’re doing even that – the amendments seem to express their sincere position on the issue, although IMO they are wrongheaded.
What’s stupid, from their own POV, is that they’re alienating Senate Democrats who were willing to go along before.
I thought the Democrat plan was to keep blacks impoverished so they’d continue to vote for the crypto-Islamic Kenyanist ticket?
Or is the new Kenyanist plan to impoverish rich Baltimoreans so they’ll vote crypto-Islamic ?
(Meanwhile, Obama continues to say nothing whatsoever about Area 51. Makes ya think, no?)
This is where stupid and crass converge in a tsunami that leaves a bad taste in your[sup]*[/sup] mouth.
(emphasis mine)I mean, yeah, Rs eating there own is fun to watch. But IIUC, governor Abbot is in a wheelchair. Could Smith, maybe, have worded that a little differently, so that it did not sound like it came right out of, oh, a book by Molly Ivins?
*“your” as in “one’s”
He forgot the third option: Abbot doesn’t care. He doesn’t have to believe or be scared of them to go along, he just has to care more about getting reelected than whatever bullshit the nutjobs are clamoring about.
(Meanwhile, Obama continues to say nothing whatsoever about Area 51. Makes ya think, no?)
Oh, if only something made them think.
Almost. No Jews in it.
But, Jews, Muslims, tomayto, tomahto, right?
In most Jewish conspiracies, black people are puppets of the Jews.