I feel kind of sorry for Becky that they had the final vote at F3. If it had gone to F2, she would have come in second.
I’ve heard it as “A vegetarian.”
Peoples’ closing comments when they were doing the Walk of Memories were kind of telling… if they weren’t heavily coached and edited to sound good for the last show, then it seems to me like everybody who got voted off was mostly okay with it–they all claimed to have given it their best shot, they all realized it was a game, and that people who made it farther than they did succeeded because they played the game better, not because they were lying rat bastards. I was kind of surprised at the final TC that nobody switched from that attitude to “My question for you, Yul, is YOU SUCK”, like we’ve seen at previous final TC’s.
Because the game isn’t about second place. Granted, it’s kinda pertinent this time; did Ozzie & Becky both come in second, or did Ozzy come in 2nd, Becky 3rd?
Oh, and Jeff has made the comment to the 2nd place winner (who won final immunity) in previous reunion shows that the choice of who to take to F2 was a $900,000 choice.
Usually, they do another immunity challenge at F3. Becky is only guaranteed F2 if Ozzy loses the immunity challenge. Otherwise, Ozzy would get to choose between taking Yul or Becky and we don’t know for sure it would be Becky.
I prefer the 3 final contestants format, because if Ozzy chooses Yul, he is an idiot for cutting his own throat. If Ozzy chooses Becky, he’s a bastard for coasting and the final tribal council is obvious and boring. If Ozzy loses immunity, then undeserving Becky gets in again.
The new format prevents someone from taking a “kingmaker”, such as an unpopular player like Jonathan or useless player like Becky, into F2 to guarantee themself the win.
Can anyone think of a way that Becky could have presented herself to the jury that might have given her a fighting chance? There has to be something. I think, if I were in her shoes, I would have tried something like:
I know most of you probably aren’t planning to vote for me, and I understand why. Yul dominated the game strategically; Ozzy dominated physically. How did I dominate? Well, here’s the thing: every time we won a challenge that kept our team alive, I was part of the physical effort. Every time someone on this jury was voted out, I was part of the decision to vote them out. Ask Yul - ask him directly, if you want, or ask Ozzy - they’ll tell you honestly that I was as much a part of developing the voting strategy as they ever were.
But in the final analysis, of the three of us, I was the only one never in danger. Yul played a great game, but he played it such that he was viewed as a threat. Many of you spent a lot of mental energy trying to come up with a way to get rid of Yul. If Ozzy had lost individual immunity at some point in the last few days, he probably would have been voted out. I managed to play the exact same game as Yul, except not one of you ever even considered voting for me. I played exactly the same strategic game as Yul, except none of you ever knew it, I made sure you all thought of me as quiet, unthreatening, easy to beat. I was never in even a little bit of danger. And that’s an accomplishment.
Probably wouldn’t have worked, probably wouldn’t have earned her even one vote, but I don’t know. What could she have done?
There’s not much to say that hasn’t already been said, but I wanted to say that Sundra is stunning, all cleaned up. She was gorgeous on the island, but I couldn’t believe how absolutely breathtaking she looked once she simply had a shower and a good night’s sleep.
I was happy Yul won. I would have been happy for Ozzy, too, but I was happier for Yul. And if he runs for president in thirty years, you bet I’ll vote for him.
Indeed! I thought she was pretty hot on the island, but she’s finally broken the curse of the reunion show-- I think she’s the first chick who looks **better **on the reunion than on the island. Parvati, OTOH, kept the curse going…
Great show. I, too, was thinking “OK, it’s time to give the girls blow torches”. That was just too funny. If they had any Survivor Honor, they’d’ve both looked at Jeff and said “kick us both out, since neither of is going to win anyway”. My Survivor group had Ozzy winning by a landslide, so we were pretty surprised when Yul pulled it off. Did they ever show how everyone on the jury voted?
It would be even easier if you were given a magnesium fire starter and used it properly, which neither of them were doing.
FYI, the proper technique is to use the knife to scrape off a pile of magnesium. Then create a spark and burn the magnesium. Put the husks on the burning magnesium to make your fire, burn the twine, and move on to the million-dollar prize!! What you don’t want to do is hack the block into little pieces trying to get a spark to light a coconut husk.
I think it’s interesting that the Aitu Four really didn’t seem to have ever discussed their strategy for once they’d made it to F4. They kicked Adam off, went back to camp and were all, “huh. Now what?”
I think the moral of Survivor is: you can win $1M without ever winning a challenge. You can come in 2nd without ever losing a challenge. It’s all about working the jury, and who you piss off.
Any ideas as to how a tiebreaker would’ve worked, if it had come down to a 4-4-1 vote (or a 3-3-3 vote, etc)?
This was probably the best-mannered and most-intelligent Final TC ever. No “rat vs snake” rants; no pick-a-number idiocy.
No more car challenges, and no more disgusting food challenges (apparently). Come to think of it, the last few seasons the contestants have been quite well-fed.
It looks like Nate had “feelings” for Parvati that Parvati didn’t share. She’s just a big ol’ flirt.
Actually, according to our local insider, last season (the one Aras won), the first couple weeks on the island all they could get for food was worms and snails; they were saving everything they had for the challenges. They haven’t done a disgusting food challenge since Pulau, when Ian requested more of the pickled duck embryos at a later challenge as a bribe to jump off a post (and lose a challenge).
Correct me if I’m wrong, but I don’t think we had a “pecking order” challenge this season, either. (those where you can gang up on somebody by breaking his plate, or whatever)
And Jeff calls the firemaking technique “flint and steel”, but it’s actually steel & magnesium, right?
Great challenges this year, btw. The wrestling match/drag somebody away from his pole challenge was a classic; all others were good combinations of strength, agility & puzzle skills. I am very glad not to see any of those stupid “best SOS signal” or “best outhouse” competitions.
Didn’t Yul win one IC? If not, he certainly was key to his tribe winning IC/RC many times.
I’m sure it would’ve been a run off vote between the two winners. 3-3-3 would be very unlikely.
I seem to recall that Parvati confessed on camera, early on in the season, that she was deliberately flirting with Nate for strategic reasons, not because she particularly liked him. But I think they clicked at least as friends once the merge happened.
I was just reminded of the main way I think Becky shot herself in the foot–although now that I think about it, this may have been from the Reunion show… anyway, her “strategy” of “let’s let Ozzy win all the challenges for us because he’s so good at it; also, let’s let him chop down all the coconuts and catch all the fish because he’s so good at it, and we’ll all watch and we are certainly not riding on his coattails, no siree… we’re a* team…*” :dubious:
Was anyone as disappointed as I was that they brought back the race issue in the final episode? After they merged the four tribes into two, the race stuff was hardly mentioned. Up till the last episode, I’d actually forgotten about the way things started. Well, not forgotten exactly, but I wasn’t consciously considering it as part of the game. There was no, “Awesome, the Asian guy is still in it!” Or, “Shoot! The white guy got voted out!” Seems like it would have been fitting to let it just drop.