Survivor Finale - 5/11

I’ve seen that ad, too. According to Wikipedia, it was for the Lincoln MKZ.

Really… $20k pre-tax for about 5 months work? That will by a lot of aloe gel for the legs. and she even got an eager lad to apply the salve…

About the digs? Well when Jeff asked Ozzy if he and Amanda were still together, Ozzy led off with “Well Jeff, you know how these Survivor girls are…” I’m pretty sure that was a reference to his semi-recent break-up with former Survivor Julie. And then Chet told Jeff “Well you would go on and on about how good the athletic and strong men were…and I beat them!” Or something like that.

Exactly. Jeff dated Julie Berry until recently.

John Mace, do you have a cite that they have been promising HD for a few seasons? I never heard about it was when it was announced at the NAB 2008 show.

Read it here

I think it was put in because of Terry in Season whatever. A lot of the jury said that they wanted to vote for him but he came up one immunity challenge shy. Ditto that Amanda can’t when a final TC. When she picked Parvo over Cirie because C can talk the stripes off a tiger, I was thinking, “She finally understands.”

I was wrong. :smack:

Yeah. Apparently anyone is more persuasive than Amanda. Chet would have demolished her!

It appears I was correct. According to Wikipedia, here’s the vote tallies for the Final 3 seasons:

  1. Cook Islands: Yul 5, Ozzy 4, Becky 0
  2. Fiji: Earl 9, Cassandra 0, Dreamz 0
  3. China: Todd 4, Courtney 2, Amanda 1

Like I said above. Anyone is more persuasive than Amanda. I think Courtney was that season’s Chet (yes, I’m not being fair to her, tough), and sure enough.

I’d cut her some slack. It takes time for her to unrolly-eye after so many :rolleyes:. For heaven’s sake, she even had a double :rolleyes: :rolleyes: when they cut to her at tribal council for less than one second. That’s how much the girl loves to :rolleyes:.

I do believe Amanda was genuinely conflicted to have to vote out Cirie. She didn’t want to appear cold and calculating (or racist), because in her mind, she couldn’t vote for a contestant that was like that. She was having a hard time holding it together after two consecutive seasons, so her emotion is understandable, if ultimately detrimental. At least she did improve over her last season and knew enough to boot Cirie, who would’ve won over either her or Parv.

Amanda’s problem is she doesn’t understand stroking. Amanda might have had a better shot if she could have gone home for a season or two, studied up on Survivor strategy and understood why she lost China.

Parvati won because Amanda sucks at kissing butt AND Parv has honed her flirting skills over a lifetime of batting her eyelashes to get every little thing. Parv (and Cirie) were not overly concerned with winning challenges nor working at camp, which left plenty of energy for strategizing. The downside is neither Parv nor Cirie can win an immunity when they need to, as evidenced by Cirie’s failure. Ultimately, that means they don’t control their destiny, but can still win if fortune favors them. For this reason, both Parv and Cirie deserve their fates (and would still deserve their fate even if their positions were flipped).

As for Natalie’s question about Parvati flirting in the bedroom, I think she was wondering if Parv ever pays off her flirts, or if it’s pure illusion. In other words, if Parv keeps promising you the best sex you’ve ever had, if only you’d do her a tiny little favor, and she tells you this every day for several weeks… when you finally help her with the favor, does she deliver on her promise?

As for Erik, it’s too bad he didn’t learn anything about lying, manipulating, or strategizing after watching (14?) seasons of Survivor. The women this season are the type of woman who, if they ever met Chivalry, would viciously shiv Chivalry in a kidney, repeatedly kick it when it’s down, and pinch a steaming loaf onto its lifeless carcass, then innocently ask “is Chivalry dead?” in the next breath.

Which to my mind and by extension is also a query about whether Parv walks both sides of the street, given that Nat brought up a flirtation incident from Parm->Nat, something that apparently we weren’t privy to (dammit :slight_smile: ).

Interesting ending. Did not expect Parvati to win over Amanda. I agree that she did screw up on Cirie’s question, but it’s not clear how much of an effect that had on the vote. It seems to me that most peoples’ minds are made up before the final tribal council, and they just use the questions to air their grievances/make a statement.

BTW, since Parvati won by a 2-vote margin, I wonder why she wasn’t considered a threat when considering who to take to the final 3.

That is, when there were six left, and Erik won immunity, Natalie said “I don’t want to go up against Amanda in the final three, so let’s vote her off”. The others agreed. Parvati only stayed out of it because she “could not vote for Amanda”, but she didn’t disagree with the premise that Amanda had a good chance of winning if she made it to the final three.

Why didn’t they pick Parvati (or Cirie or Alexis for that matter) as the one they didn’t want to go against in the final three? In hindsight, it looks like they misjudged the relative popularity/respect that Amanda had vs Parvati (or vs Cirie or Alexis).

Another question I had was, why did Eliza vote for Parvati? She said to Parvati “You made fun of me behind my back” and she said to Amanda “When I hear you talk, I sometimes want to shoot myself”.

I don’t know about you, but, between someone whom I can’t stand talking and someone who made fun of me behind my back (and on national TV!), I would never choose the latter to give the million dollars to.

I wonder why Probst didn’t ask the jury “who would you have voted for if it were between Cirie and Amanda” like he usually does?

I could be mis-remembering and I’ve deleted it from the DVR, but I’m almost positive I saw Parv tap Natalie’s butt right before they left the beach to go to the final 4 TC.

Cirie was most deserving because she masterminded the whole season. However, I’m not sure she won a challenge all season either. And most importantly she lost the challenge that counted most. I do feel bad for her and I really don’t like Parv or Amanda, but I can’t argue with their success in the context of the game.

Even though it hurt Cerie, I’m glad they’re back to final two rather than final three. Final 3 seemed to prematurely end the game to me. Hell, come to think of it Final 2 probably cost Amanda the game too because of the alleged crocodile tears. Final 2 just makes more sense to me.

I remember that too, but I thought it was Natalie tapping Parv. And it was more of an open palming than a tap. I’ll see if I still have it recorded.

You are not mis-membering… She did give Parv’s butt a little love squeeze… once Parv and Amanda were down to final 2, and nuzzling head-to-head, I could only hope for a Survivor “first”…

Actually, Final 2 helped Amanda move up a spot (and earn an extra $15,000). Had it been Final 3, Cirie would’ve won and Amanda would’ve come in third. Also, people are mis-remembering Survivor China, where Amanda placed third, not second. Going by Wikipedia, her total take is $85,000 + $100,000 = $185,000. So, it seems she actually made less money than James, who won two $100,000 popularity prizes in addition to his stipend.

As far as what happens if they had a tie vote, I suspect the producers would just announce the first ever Survivor tie and split the million dollars.

<completely off topic>What is it about pageant girls? Amanda looked great in Micronesia but awful in both live finales. Same thing with the sports fan (Danny?) who won in an earlier show. Last night I was flipping through channels and came across the Reality Network (I swear I didn’t even know that this channel existed) showing a previous season of Amazing Race, where the two Miss America contestants were on. They had interviews with the participants spliced into the replays of the episodes, and the Beauty Queens didn’t look that great, but two cheerleaders from (South Carolina? Kentucky?) looked amazing.

I guess it’s all about the swimsuit, huh?

You’d think they would have realized it would be a Final Two and not a Final Three, when the challenge at the beach was a race and not a test of endurance. The final immunity challenge has always been a “whoever does X the longest without moving/letting go/etc.” thing.

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: That’s the whole point of Final Three. If Survivor 13 was a final 2, is there any way that it wouldn’t have been an 9/0 blowout With Yul or Ozzy winning over Becky? No way would either of them taken the other to final 2.

The third guy isn’t supposed to be relevant. They’re supposed to prevent the old “take the Chet to sit next to you” tactic. (of course the name was different, but there were always “Chets”)

( Earl is a special case, since he got the unanimous vote, but imagine if Yau Man had made final 3, would we have seen a hard fought Yau vs. Earl? Doubtful. And China I can’t understand. I still don’t know how Courtney got any votes…)

Yes, according to Jeff. She lasted the duration in both shows–the maximum 78 days.

Amanda would have lost no matter who she took to final 2. It probably would have been more of a blowout if she were up against Cirie, though.

So Erik goes and rips Amanda a new one during TC; then votes for her anyway with some pissant “forgive and forget” line? Jeez, this guy can’t even play the game right when he’s out of the game!

I for one was glad that Parvati won. I was getting so sick of Amanda’s “poor me” routine; plus, when she gave her answer to Cirie, I turned to Mrs. Know and said, “She just lost the game.”

Natalie may be a bit creepy, but to the male (or even female) viewers out there: Didn’t you get even a little aroused when she asked Parv that “bedroom” question? I know I did.

The second “Survivor couple” was a real disappointment. I barely remember Mary and don’t remember Ryan from Pearl Islands at all. Personally, I was hoping for Joel and Chet! :eek:

Well, see you all in Gabon.

Gabon?
Africa?
Hey, rockle … MONKEYS!!! :wink: