In spite of its flaws, I liked the ending of the last one. (The whole theme really.) Learning to lie is part of being/playing human.
thing is, she has been lying all along as and “when the mission requires it”. now she lies just because
Is it just me, or is season 2 actually really solidly entertaining so far, and generally a big step up from season 1?
I’ve been impressed that Brian Austin Green is pretty believable as a tough guy. Never thought I’d see that.
So I missed the beginning of the episode. The 888 tried to kill the little boy because…and this tied into the one dude at military camp (the future suicide bomber) how?
-Joe
There were three people in the phone book with the same name. Triple 8’s are “thorough.” If they don’t know who their target is, everyone with that name gets it. Sarah mentioned two or three other Sarah Connors died for having her name.
Not for me. I think it’s pretty boring, repetitive and unimaginative. I’m on the edge of giving up on it, the only reason I keep watching is to see if they EVER manage to come up with some sort of an actual plot.
But, getting into the spirit: I’m thinking that the CEO woman is actually human, and there’s a terminator running around impersonating her. Think about it. So far (unless I’ve missed something), they’ve shown terminator-turning-into-CEO-woman twice and both cases had no continuity with the last time we saw the actual CEO. For example, the first time: what was clearly the CEO had an argument with that employee, then sometime later the employee gets offed by the urinal that morphs into the CEO. What was missing was the typical closeup of CEO sneering, then a shot of her walking down the hall towards the restroom or something.
And the latest time: A terminator-hooker gets this guy out of a bar, kills him, then morphs into CEO. No prior shots of CEO morphing into hooker, or even CEO walking out of her office building.
Hey, could be a stretch, but I’m trying to give the writers credit for some creativity. We’re all assuming that the CEO is a terminator, based on the urinal scene, but it would be a twist if she’s actually human (with possibly not-totally-evil motives), and the terminator-as-CEO is different.
And it was actually hunting for suicide bomber guy?
-Joe
Honestly, I think that’s a stretch. Why would a terminator choose her appearance after making a kill? Especially while leaving the original alive, it doesn’t make sense. And if they were in cahoots, why choose the identity do incriminate the human CEO?
I’m pretty interested this season. And between Summer Glau and Shirley Manson, it’s hard to take my eyes off the screen. 
Yes. The T-888 killed someone with a name Crazy Uncle recognized as someone who saves JC in the future. They quickly realized it’s killing anyone with that name. Two left: a small boy, and the guy at the military school. They knew the military school guy was the real target, but also knew the Terminator didn’t, and was going to kill them in no particular order, so they split up.
I keep getting yoinked back to the title of the series–“The Sarah Connor Chronicles”–and wonder when they’re going to have Sarah be something other than a total freaking mess… I realize, the stuff she’s been through isn’t stuff you get over without some serious therapy, and that’s not gonna happen, but yet another week of “yep, Sarah’s kinda wrong in the head” would be pretty darn boring without all the various eye candy of the female and/or explosive variety. So, I’m good, it’s just a little jarring to have Sarah turn into a mom all of a sudden, just as jarring as having the lead singer from Garbage turn into a robot. Which is kind of the point of the series, I think.
Well,
Little boy to Sarah: “are you a spy?”
Sarah: “No.”
“Are you a mom?”
“Yes.”
“You kinda suck at it.”
Cute kid. He did a pretty darn good job of acting, and he did seem to help Sarah be a mom, realizing she really isn’t very good at it.
Cameron: “he likes the crusts cut off.”
Heh, even Cameron is a quicker mom-learner than Sarah.
Some thoughts…
-[del]Guarnere[/del] Bedell was a pretty alright character—it’d be great if he were reoccuring.
-Hell of a good casting choice for the Terminator of the Week. Nice to see one that actually looks like a walking murder machine that could tear people apart with his bare hands.
-It occured to me, while watching this, that the heroes seem to have succumbed to a pretty fatalistic “our bloody destinies are set” mindset, and given up on the hope of stopping the war from occuring…but then, thinking about it (I think this is what you call “Fridge Brilliance”), that they have reason to. They’ve lost the Turk’s trail, their Terminator is getting funny in the head, and if you give them enough credit for time-travel savvy, they might have realized that the mortally wounded guy who found them with his list of names must have come from a different timeline than the one Derek and Cameron came from, initially—one where the war still happens, even after all they’ve done to try and change it so far. They’re losing—or have already lost—the temporal war, and they know it. Damn.
-Would it kill them to show some more of the future war besides people squatting in ruins, talking about the action? Or are they saving the special effects budget for a kick-ass season finale?
Still, it seems like they could do something without breaking the bank…I dunno, like glueing a Terminator toy torso onto a Roboquad and marching it across some miniature rubble. Toho could pull it off.
-I can’t help but Weaver had an odd expression after leaving the murder scene (now that’s a shapeshifter assassination. God damn…). Maybe the whole experience was starting to trouble her, on an psycho-emotional level, a sign of the development of a machine’s “soul”…or, y’know, that particular killing just left a bad taste in her mouth. Ba-dum-bum.
Well, like I said, I’m trying to give the writers credit for some imagination. If you’re right, and the CEO really is the terminator, it’ll be just another sad case of the writers going with the obvious. On the other hand, as to your objections that it doesn’t make sense, same as with Cromartie kidnapping the ambulance guy’s wife: what at first may seem to make no sense might be really clever, after all the facts are known. Again, giving the writers credit that they may not yet deserve.
The war pretty much has to happen otherwise we run into a paradox. How would Reese have been sent back in time to impregnate Sarah Conner if there was no war with Skynet?
It’s already a time loop. How can John Conner be killed by the machines? If they manage to kill him he never sent Reese back to impregnate Sarah.
-Joe
Exactly. They can’t kill him until after Reese is sent back in time.
Yeah, but killing Connor is useless, then. The humans will have won.
They’ve already prevented the war with Skynet that caused Kyle to be sent back…the Skynet War that started in 1997. That date, and the circumstances behind that war, were quoted by Reese and “Uncle Bob.” (This also means, by all rights, if John sent Kyle back after the second version of judgement day occured in 2011, it couldn’t have been to 1984, or else there’d have been two different Kyle Reeses running around.)
Likewise, they’ve already changed the future in SCC—Cameron came back from a future where Sarah died in 2004, but a couple of episodes ago, a time traveler came back to deliver information to the house where Sarah & co. had taken up in after fleeing to 2007—they couldn’t have come from the same future. Not to mention Derek, who met Turk creator Andy in the future…and murdered Andy after traveling to the past. No paradox, no memory erasure.
All of this, of course, is complicated by the fact that the “rules” of time travel seemed to change between the movies. T1 seemed to indicate that history was essentially predestined, while in T2 the future became changeable again. (My personal theory is that the time travel in T1 “broke in” the universe, allowing history to be changed after the initial temporal loop. Hey, you got a better explaination? 
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T3 and SCC seemed to be taking the predestination stuff from a “historical inevitability” angle—like if you went back in time and killed Hitler as a child, Goering or Stalin would just end up starting WWII. Simply a matter of political, social, and other circumstances at that time and place.
It would be a very nice surprise to see the writers fool us in that regard. I agree with you though, I don’t think it will happen, but we can pretend.
Heck, TV writing is so seat-of-the-pants anyway that I’ve stopped expected multi-layered resolutions and the more convoluted the story, the less likely there will be some mind-blowing reveal that ties it all together.
“And [the Cylons] have a plan…” No, they don’t, you lying liar - you’re just making it up as you go!