Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles Season 2 thread [open spoilers after it airs]

They have a plan, a sexy plan!

No one noticed the new telephone codes? I’m shocked.

Oh and Best. Episode. Ever.

Preach it, brother.

My problem with BSG is the internet. Ron Moore talked a lot of smack online, so I held him to it. I’d never done that with a TV show before.

Same thing with Lost actually. “Everything will be scientifically plausible!” Why do I listen? I need to just sit back and watch the show and see where it goes.

I wonder how much we can expect from T:TSCC. It’s part of a large franchise, and there can’t really ever be a solid conclusion to the story, can there? At least, not if they want to ever make another movie that isn’t a “re-imagining.”

Oh, the only new phone code I heard was “mention a book report.”

Was there more phone code?

My biggest issue with the show - time hopping paradox’s and pre-destination aside -

How the frack do they keep getting brand new vehicles - I know its product placement - but this is a group of ‘commandos’ living off the ‘grid’ - yet they can keep coming up with brand new vehicles? They even replaced the jeep that just got blowed up - with another one of the exact same model (near as I can tell).

And they use GPS?

These folks should be avoiding technology they dont have to use - cellphones I can understand - assuming they keep switching them.

Hell, Micheal Westin is doing a better job at staying off the grid…

Other than that, - I enjoy the show - I’m curious as to where they take it - it eventually has to come to an end - either the war starts or it doesnt - if the war doesnt start, then there is no way to tie up the series, and it will continue on way past what it should.

On this past episode - shouldnt the entire tar pit have gone up in flames? Other than for affect, was there any real reason to burn the 888? (assuming it was going to continue sinking).

I also think Cameron was none to pleased that the puny humans managed to off the 888 without her assistance.

New Phone code? I heard a couple of beeps - assumed they switched to pushing a key or two before talking.

The “mention book report” was specifically for the kid she saved - to identify him. I’d LOVE to hear the conversation taht kid has with his parents about where he’s been.

I think they got a wad of cash from a safe house set up by future guys who all eventually got terminated.

And who knows, maybe Cameron can hack ATM machines.

Well, its not so much the money - but the “off the grid” and “blend in” aspect of things.

To Skynet, if any of these records survive anyway, all they are is the weird Baum family in the rented house.

That, and let’s remember that in the T2 movie, we see John stealing money from an ATM with no difficulty.

-Joe

Ya typically da duplicated target iz terminated.

If by “hack” you mean smash her tiny metal fist through one and rip out all the cash.

That’s a much better code than the date thing. The date thing presumes the terminator can’t tap a phone line and decipher that they are saying a date at the beginning of the conversation. A code word (and it’s response) of the day would be even better.

That T-1001 Shirley Mansonator really is programmed to bust out a one liner whenver it terminates someone, even if there isn’t anyone to hear it!

The card itself was stolen (suggesting the messy preliminary step of burglary or pickpocketing), though he had a plot-device gizmo that would decode its PIN.

I just don’t get why they hang around Los Angeles. I know Sarah fled into Mexico at the end of T1, but she apparantly returned to California to attack computer companies, got busted and locked up in T2, but why in T3 is John, while doing his best to live “off the grid”, still hanging around southern California? If Judgement Day is inevitable, isn’t a nuke-likely target like L.A. a bad place to be? Much better to set up in some hick town in Arkansas, spend a few years settling in under phony names and cultivating good relationships with the neighbors so they’re more likely to alert you if a grim well-built stranger comes to town asking questions.

Of course, while I loved the short-lived Brimstone, I also didn’t get why the 113 escapees from Hell also settled in and around L.A. I recognize a TV show’s desire for consistency and the hassles and expenses in taking production on the road, but at try faking it Incredible Hulk style and have each episode end with Sarah, John and Cameron hitchhiking while the sad but soothing tones of piano arrangements of selected cuts from Use Your Illusion play in the background.

Well, they keep thwarting Skynet, and I guess the date of Armageddon keeps getting bumped forward, but they seem to have a rough idea of when Armageddon is going to happen, so they have time to get out before the blast. I assume there will be some public announcement that the military and government has officially turned over our nukes to this Skynet computer, which would be their cue to get out of dodge.

Tell me about it…initially, the rationale behind destroying the Terminator(s) was to keep any technology from being found and reverse engineered (as in T2), and keeping it all secret was because everyone would think they were crazy.

After a certain point, though—like when you have apparently dozens of Terminators running around in the past, not just a couple sent back on a last-ditch mission at the end of the war—you’d think they’d want evidence of the Terminators to get out to the public. That might actually prevent the war and keep Skynet from being built.

Eh, maybe they just haven’t found the opportune time or method. (I dunno…strip half the flesh off a captured T-888, lengthwise, lobotomize it’s chip, and leave it wandering naked in a mall around the Christmas rush? Too much? :smiley: )

In L.A.? Not nearly enough.

Bumping this thread since there’s a new ep tonight.

Also, The Sarah connor Chronicles has gotten an order for a full 13 episode season, according to Variety. The cast and crew got the news on Friday, so it looks like Fox will give it a fighting chance. The first three episodes had struggled in the ratings, but the October 6 airing averaged a 2.3 rating and 6 share among adults 18-49, which was up slightly from the prior week. So Fox has given the order for a back nine.

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117994273.html?categoryid=14&cs=1

It’s not a whole 22 episode renewal?

God DAMN, Shirley Manson has a terrible, nearly incomprehensible accent.

And she mumbles too much.

-Joe

Well, to be fair, they made her do an American accent the first episode this year, and they have backed off(because it was so terrible). Now, they have her doing some sort of robot-American-Irish-bad-actor accent that isn’t working.

Who did she know to get this role? She’s not a good enough actor and she’s miscast. I feel bad for her.

I’m not in the TV industry, nor all that knowledgeable by any means, but I’m sure ratings play a big part of how many episodes are ordered for a series. TCC has been right on the bubble. The first season didn’t do well in the ratings, but I’m sure the writers’ strike played a big part in that. And the first three episodes of this season didn’t do as well as some of the first season’s episodes. In fact the show was rumored to be on the verge of cancellation just a few weeks ago. 13 weeks is the bare minimum number of episodes ordered for a series being given a tryout. Probably if the show improves in the ratings, Fox may order another 9 episodes to bring it up to 22. Well-established ratings winners which have done well in the past such as My Name Is Earl or House undoubtedly justify a full 22 episode order, but for a show starting out which is struggling to capture an audience, the networks are understandably reluctant to commit a lot of time and money to a show that may ultimately tank in the ratings and not bring in enough money from the advertisers. Perhaps someone who actually knows the ins and outs of the TV business can contribute some knowledge, but this is my actual best guess from observation.

Say what you will, but I thought the Terminator that got its endoskeleton rearranged by Cameron was smokin’. Guess I’m a sucker for a redhead robot. Apparently, her being twisted into a pretzel wasn’t entirely a visual effect because she’s reportedly an actual contortionist capable of that sort of thing … now why can’t I find out what her name is?

And proving what I said, I apparently got confused on the number of episodes ordered. SF Universe confirms there will be a full season run of 22 episodes for the SCC, so disregard my WAG in post #98. I sometimes get in the habit of letting my butt do my talking for me and this was one of those times. :smack: