A lot of anesthetics more common to hospitals do the same thing. Propofol does it nicely, for example.
(Note: that last statement is from personal, legal, medically necessary experience; apparently, I’m highly entertaining when I’ve been given that stuff. I remember none of it.)
If you give someone enough nitrous, they also can forget stuff. I once forgot my own name and where I was when under.
Lure in some zombies, drug your victims and “save” them. I dunno. Someone was keeping the place clean and stocked. Why are the cops out patrolling at night anyway? The Terminus area is a long way from Atlanta.
With the exception of a few good scenes, BORRRRRRR-ING. I nearly dozed off.
Hmm, not really sure what you thinking, but I’ll give it a shot. It does not seem the SaveNappers have anything to do with the church, other than one of their recon cars happened to have been in the area, and was subsequently spotted by Daryl and Carol.
They are not out police patrolling, so to speak, more accurately out on supply runs, and maybe a savenapping if the opportunity presents itself. The rapey cop mentioned that they were having to go further and further out to find supplies.
Also, we really don’t know how far Terminus is from Atlanta. Last season’s railroad maps made it look like it was a little to the west of Macon GA. An hour to 90 minutes away.
As an aside, the Terminus building is actually in downtown Atlanta, or more precisely just to the west of it. Maybe 15 minutes form the office building I’m in right now.
I loved the detail they put into the view from the roof of Grady Memorial. They were looking north and the remains of the Marriott Marquis hotel was instantly recognizable. I find it interesting that they used the actual name of Gradey Memorial. No attempt to disguise it or anonymize it at all. Wonder if they had to get permission?
I don’t know anything about propofol, but both rohypnol and Versed (something every hospital that does surgery will have plenty of) cause anterograde amnesia. That is, your memory lapse begins about two minutes after you take it and only goes forward, not backwards). Everytime I’ve had Versed (4 times now), I remember every thing up to getting it, the next few minutes and everything after I woke up. The only time I’m missing is when I was out. IOW, Beth would have remembered getting in the car, getting the injection etc… If she got it at the hospital, she would have remembered the entire car ride. So you either need to fanwank that (probably the thing to do) or find a drug that causes retrograde amnesia.
Also, if this is what they’re doing, they only seem to do it to some of the patients. Noah remembers come in, that Joan was awake when she came in.
I should have said funeral home. The place last season Daryl & Beth found all neat and clean and a carefully preserved body downstairs. Will we never find out who was maintaining that place?
I think it may also depend on the mix of drugs. We don’t know what was in her IV…
But I imagine we need to suspend some disbelief, as well.
Also, doctors, WTH was with the scene where Beth (badly) pulverizes the pill and then injects? Does that work with medications? Is it a bad idea (even if you use the correct drug)?
I have to give a shout-out to the idea of falling down an elevator shaft into a squishy pile of rotting corpses.
Not a doctor, but know enough about illicit drug use to know that it works, but can lead to all kinds of nasty problems because the fillers and binders that pills contain weren’t meant to go into your bloodstream. Getting the dosage right the way she did it was problematic, as well.
If it dissolved, it might not be a great idea, but drug abusers do it all the time so it’s not unheard of.
Of course even they usually do more then smack it with the pestle a few times and draw it into the syringe. If you see a strung out looking guy with part of the filter end of his cigarette missing that’s from filtering heroin through it into the syringe. There’s real versions to do this, that’s if they needed to grind up a pill to inject it, they would have used. In a pinch, they could have used some gauze or something to keep the particulates out.
I really like this episode although it seemed like a conscious episode.
How many people were supposed to be at the hospital? We saw some extras earlier in the episode, but by mid-point it was only Doctor, Lerhner, Beth, Noah, Rape Cop, Other Rape Cop, and armless girl and that was it. It was hard to get any sense of scope of their operation. Also, it was unclear if they would take anyone who came in and was willing to work or if they only indentured injured people that they save-napped. Based on Noah’s story they were very picky about who they let stay so I imagine they tell other survivors to just move on.
I am also on board with Carol trojan horsing her way in, but I’m hoping for an additional twist with Daryl’s shadow pal.
Spoiler:
Darryl’s shadow pal is a new character, Aunt Tippy, played by Paula Deen.
Somehow I forgot to put “budget” in there. “Budget conscious” episode.
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When I was an EMT, glucagon for hypoglycemic diabetics came in 2 vials, one with a tablet, and the other with some amount of normal saline. We had to extract the saline, inject it in the vial with the tablet which dissolved on contact, then do a standard intramuscular injection with the solution. So something like that is not unheard of even today, but outside of the previously mentioned druggies, the mortar and pestle process is probably a relic of time.
Glucagon, administered to the right people, brought our patients out of their diabetic comas within minutes. That shit was amazing.
However, I doubt it was that cheap. They still had a bunch of walkers, they had entire new set to build, they had stunt work in the elevator shaft, they had a huge special effect to make the city look burned out and that was likely sent out to another company to do. My guess is that this probably cost just as much as shooting in the jail.
I don’t think Carl, Daryl, Glenn and Tyreese have gone through that much of a character change. Daryl in season 1 is pretty much the same guy he is now. Carl is pretty much exactly what you expect based on his season 1 self, only older. Glenn is totally the same guy, only a little bit more risk-averse. Tyreese, maybe, but I interpret his fear of killing is really his fear of snapping and going all Rambo, which was always part of his character.
Beth went from having completely given up and trying to kill herself to back with the group with something of a positive attitude on the farm to completely emotionally dead in the prison. (Oh, my boyfriend died? Must be Tuesday. Speaking of dead boyfriends, she’s lost two so far, right?) After the prison she’s waking up to the idea that she needs to take her survival into her own hands. This season 5 Beth bears little to no resemblance to the Beth of season 2 (her first) or the Beth of season 4 (the prison.)
My first thought at hearing “Grady Hospital” was “what a shithole.” It’s been a while since I’ve been downtown so maybe that’s changed. I’d have to see it before I’d believe it. Dawn’s OCD orders to clean the entire place must have been an arduous task.
I don’t see how Carol got from Terminus (which in reality is Macon - and Terminus is actually Atlanta) all the way to Atlanta that fast on foot, unless Beth was there for several days that we didn’t see.
They only built the elevator shaft. The rest was filmed in an unused hospital in Newnan, south of Atlanta, but much closer than Macon.
I’m confused. we saw Carol and Daryl get in a car and follow one of the cars that we now see parked out front of the hospital. Why would Carol have gone on foot?
I visited a friend there about 3 years ago and that was still an apt description then, at least of the wing I was in.
