I thought the episode was ok. I liked the helicopter though. Gives me hope that the ending I want will happen when the series ends: The Army comes rolling up and is like “WTF are you guys doing? We’ve been broadcasting for months to contact us to come help”
(Yes, I know that’s not what the helicopter signifies)
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You just made the top 10 of everyone’s zombie apocalypse recruitment list. 
Does the position come with a red shirt?
Internal group fighting while establishing a possible pack hierarchy is one thing. Or fighting over a mate (Shane, Rick, and Lori), or beating a wife abuser (Carol’s ex and Dr porchdick), but this fist fight seems to be the writers attempt to allow Rick and Daryl to pursue separate adventures. And they both believed the Savior’s story about Carol and Ezekiel being dead??? Carol dead? Bwahahahaha. Carol’s got more cookies than the rest of them combined. (And a fan base that will hunt down the writers if Carol is written out of the series.)
Star Trek, or zombie guts, red?
No, I think he got sick from the zombie guts. Negan even made a point of mentioning how often it happens while they were doing it. He was cleaned off, if he had any bites they would have been found.
They also don’t have powers, and it could be roasting hot in that cell.
Only, (virtually) no pilots seem to have survived the apocalypse. So I’d probably be dead – as carnivorousplant implies.
They had a poll on The Talking Dead and that was not one of the options. (It’s what I’d assumed, though.) Someone on the show thought that he was faking it, so as to get into contact with the doctor, whom Maggie needs for her baby.
On another matter, one of the guests had this hypothesis. The former leader of what is now the Sanctuary is Simon. Negan told Gabe that there had been a previous leader. Everyone is supposed to assume he was liquidated by Negan. But Negan has a habit of bending people to his will. Steven Ogg was mum about it, but it’s an interesting idea.
As they did for Glen?
An interesting thought. Negan said that he didn’t kill the leader of a group that became his thralls.
The dying Saviour didn’t say that.
Quoted from the show’s subtitles.
He didn’t kill the leaders of Alexandria, Hilltop or Kingdom.
To date, people (the Sanctuary cannibals), hogs, and tigers have eaten walkers with no ill effects. Members of Rick’s groups have decorated themselves with walker offal du jour on several occasions (or when the writing required it). No one ended up with the shakes. Maybe Negan’s walkers have been treated with toxins? Or as John Mace suggests, the excess heat has brought on tremors/convulsions?
Correction - I had reason to re-watch 8.05, and the Savior who was dying beside the road, the one Rick had asked if he was the only one who had survived back at the chemical plant, responded, “Me, the King, the Axe man, and a short-haired psycho lady”. Maggie is the widow, and Carol has to be the short-haired psycho lady.
For me, that puts a different spin on why Daryl is so determined to go back.
Ninja’d by Shakester
Gabriel is a weenie.
You are really expecting good writing out of this? Gabriel got sick from the zombie guts because Negan literally said it happened all the time right as they were doing it, everything that’s happened before be damned.
Thanks for mentioning the convo with the chemical plan survivor. The sound was so overbearing in this episode that I missed a number of the details in the dialogue.
It’s poss8ble that Gabriel intentionally ate some of the guts to make himself sick so he could have an excuse to get close to the doc.
I agree that this was the best episode of the season, but damn that’s a low bar to hurdle. This episode was still weakly written - just not excruciatingly so.
For example, are we really to believe that there is yet another large camp of people within walking distance of.the main supply line between Negan’s sites, and no one has heard of them until now? People that operate a freaking helicopter? Or is there something about that I didn’t understand? The guy in the watchtower was part of a new group, was he not?
And with all that’s gone down, Rick finds a strange new camp, and just walks up to them in broad daylight? Has he learned nothing?
The fight between Rick and Daryl was ridiculous. First of all, they then blew up those guns and explosives that would have been ever so useful in the future, because they were being idiots. Second, Daryl is now completely evil - no better than Negan’s bunch. Last week he shot a scared, surrendering teenager in the face for no reason. Now he wants to kill a whole bunch of innocent noncombatants, just because. And he’s willing to defy Rick to do it, even after being reminded that he would be murdering people who had done nothing to him and who presented no real threat. He should be out of the group on his ass.
Negan was right - people are a valuable resource. If they can’t put together a critical mass of survivors, humanity ends in a couple of generations. So I can see Negan’s logic - when every single person is critical to the survival of the community and ultimately the human race, well, if you have to kill to keep order it’s better to kill one or two spectacularly than to kill a whole bunch putting down an insurrection.
Rick, on the other hand, is willing to order his people to sneak into a facility and commit mass murder of precious remaining humans in their sleep, just because they are on the wrong side. The only reason Negan is more ‘evil’ on the show is because the people he killed are characters we liked, and because Jeffrey Dean Morgan hammed up the character into a caricature of a manic insane leader.
I don’t know about the guy in the watchtower, but if you have a helicopter you don’t need to be within walking distance.
Like I said, maybe Rick has a head injury. I know, I am being silly. I also thought maybe big foot should be in the show, and be immune to the virus and help repopulate the world wth a stronger, healthier biped. I am goofy that way. The heliocopter will be important. The last time we saw one was before the governor appeared. There also the fact that the Walking dead and the Fear of the Walking dead will merge at some point, so there’s that. We shall see.
The guy in the watchtower looked like one of the Scavengers, the junkyard people. We haven’t seen them since they ran away when their double-cross of Alexandria failed. So, I’d guess that Rick is approaching them again - which doesn’t make sense because you obviously can’t trust people who’ve already sold you out once. But whatever.
Whether the heli is theirs or some as yet unknown group is an open question.