Tiger's apology on TV

No, it really isn’t. At all. Saying, 'don’t follow my kids to school," is not the same as saying," don’t pay attention to ME."

Yeah, he said pretty much exactly that. I heard him say it.

Now THAT’S a false dichotomy.

I didn’t catch the statement.
Has anyone in a position to know ever definitely said what condition he is supposedly getting therapy for?

All he said was treatment and therapy , he said nothing about what the treatment was for.

Was Elin there?

No. She would be an idiot not to divorce him.

Well, she may still love him and believe he can change. I sure don’t know the whole story and I’m sure she is more informed than we are.

His mother was there along with friends.

Yeah - well his mom had no objection to hosing Earl before he was divorced from his first wife, so she’s an impeccable judge of character! :stuck_out_tongue:

Tiger Woods can suck it. If he doesn’t answer questions, then his apology and speech means nothing.

I listened to local radio show yesterday (Petros and Money) and Petros said everything I was thinking of and more. Tiger put himself out there and said “I’m a role model!” and pushed products on us like Nike and Gatorade and said essentially told us to buy it because he was a great golfer and a great person. He looked us in the eyes and lied.

If he had, at the very beginning, said “I’m an adulterer and love sex with random women, but I’m also a great golfer. Buy Nike!” then I wouldn’t be annoyed at his little speech. But he sold himself as something he’s not, and for that he needs to answer questions. None of this ducking reporters and having a no-question pre-written speech. He could have taped it and put it on Youtube for all the news that was worth.

If he wants to present himself as something he’s not, then I hope TMZ and all the tabloids follow him around and bother him for the next 10 years until he answers questions about his personal life.

Aw - give the poor kid a break! You have no idea the pressure he was under. He was sick. He never asked to be a role model - he just wanted to play golf. He didn’t know anyone would disapprove. It is his private matter between him and his family (and apparently any number of bimbos). Nike forgives him. He ran out of gas. He had a flat tire. He didn’t have enough money for cab fare. His tux didn’t come back from the cleaners. An old friend came in from out of town. Someone stole his car. There was an earthquake. A terrible flood. Locusts. IT WASN’T HIS FAULT! :stuck_out_tongue:

Are you saying that just because a self absorbed, hypocritical scumbag up til now, he can’t become something entirely different after some therapy and public penance? How insensitive you are to his pain.

We’ll see how easily the Tiger can change his spots.

I do not understand this line of thinking at all. At no time in any of Tiger’s ads did he ever refer to his family life, his wife, his kids or how good a husband or father he was. Every single ad he has ever done either focused solely on his golfing prowess or just with him shilling the product. Show me one instance in where Tiger said “I am a role model”. How did Tiger ever lie to the public? When did he ever look into the camera and say “I am faithful to my wife and have never cheated on her”. He never did.

The reason Tiger Woods was a pitchman for so many different companies was not because of his family man image…it was because he was the greatest golfer and maybe the most famous athlete on the planet.

Tiger will answer limited questions eventually. Expecting Tiger to hold a full-fledged news conference at his first public appearance while on a break from rehab is crazy. Like Alex Rodriguez, Mark Mcgwire, Kobe Bryant and many others before him that have had public embarrasing situations (theirs being much worse as they cheated the game they played or were accused of a crime), Tiger will likely have a one on one sit down interview with a hand picked reporter around a week or so before he decides to return to playing professional golf. The questions will cover some items but certainly not the salacious details of his infidelities. He will then refrain from answering any further questions regarding the matter and life will move on. After he wins another tournament, the media and many fans will reembrace him.

Also, regarding the quote above that Elin would be an idiot not to divorce him…I would not say that at all. They have a pre-nuptial agreement, and it has leaked out that if she stays married to him for at least another 18 months she is due to receive an additional 58 million dollars. Even the most jilted woman would have a hard time walking away from that kind of money.

Oh please. Tiger never put himself out there and said “I’m a role model.” It’s the problem of the public who for some reason think it’s a good idea to look at sports figures as role models and then slap all these perceived character traits on them.
People actively seek him out as a role model just because of his success, he doesn’t seek out people to be a role model to.
And if people buy Nike and Gatorade because they think Tiger is a great person well then they’re stupid. Who the hell buys something just because they think the person endorsing it is a perceived great person? (I know, apparently a lot of people. They’re still stupid.)
I’ve seen plenty of Tiger endorsed ads over the years and they all had the same message “I am a focused golfer”. Is that a lie? I have never seen a one of his ads say “I am an honest faithful family man.”

This is some funny shit. It sounds like he let you down BIG TIME.

No, I just don’t like it when someone looks me in the face and lies. And he most certainly did try to come off as a role model. Google “Tiger Woods role model quotes” and you’ll see him talk many many times about being a role model. He created the Tiger Woods Foundation. He’s admittedly done a lot for people, but as we found out he’s misrepresented himself completely. He didn’t let me down, I don’t care for golf and don’t really follow him, but he did let down millions who were disappointed in his choices.

If he had been honest about his sex addiction from the get go, would as many people have supported him, bought his products, and held him in as high a regard as they do now? Tell me that people who supported him don’t feel betrayed.

Hell, I’m more liable to buy Tiger Woods products now that I know he’s a raging horndog. But if he came out and said he was faking it all, I would feel betrayed. My support for his endorsements is based on how he’s portrayed. Take that away, and my support is lost along with his image. That’s why I think that a little bit of poetic justice should be that tabloids follow him around for a few years and completely destroy his privacy.

I was disappointed by the apology. I think what he did to his family was bad, but it’s between his family and himself. I was hoping he would announce his return to golf today and he didn’t. He is an artist with a golf club and I only care about him in that way. I just want to watch him play friggin’ golf. This soap opera bullpucky is annoying.

He didn’t seem at all sincere to me. It was like with each word he was saying

“Must apologize…Need to make amends so money doesn’t dry up.”

Like when Michael Vick apologized he also came across as totally insincere.

From the Simpsons

Bart) Can’t you just say you’re sorry and not mean it? I do it all the time. In fact, I don’t think I’ve ever meant it.

Marge) Bart!!!

Bart) Sorry

Marge) That’s better

Bart grins devilishly :slight_smile:

This rather brilliant (IMO) Nike commercial co-stars Earl Woods, actually: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTuk5Uloyjg

“I slept with x number of women, I’m really, really sorry. I thought I’d let you know al that for no reason I can think of in this bogus, faux format. Cheers. p.s. can I have my sponsorship back”

For those who think the apology insufficient or insincere, what do you think Tiger should have done to make you accept him?

Personally, I’d have liked to see Tiger cut his own ear with a knife. That would have demonstrated his contrition!

(I guess he’s skipping the Masters; any guesses on when he comes back? I hope he wins the grand slam in 2011!)

I’d like him to just shut up, deal with his faimly and the issues quiety and with dignity, and worry about his sponsorship deals less obvioulsy and less manipulatively.