Too short to serve prison time

Well, Monty, I’m glad to see that old age hasn’t compromised your delusions.

Now read this, you fucking idiot – I did NOT say that inmates are fair game for “prison justice”; I said that they’re likely to receive it. I did NOT say that it’s a good thing; I said it’s an unavoidable thing. The juries know this, the judges know this, the criminals know this.

Everybody knows this, it seems, except Monty.

No, the judge’s order doesn’t read “be pig-fucked by Big Dog Bubba.” It may as well, however, read “hope you don’t meet Bubba.”

Learn to read what I write, not what you wish I had written.

Cuz, ya know, blatant misrepresentation is the same as LYING. And I doubt that Mr. Smith would have approved.

Cocksucker.

Nor yours.

And thus you pretend that the prison vigilante action is part of the judicial system. It’s not.

Perhaps you should read what I, and others, have written and then you just perhaps might realize that not “everyone knows” that bunk you’re spouting.

So you admit that it’s not part of the sytem and then you pretend that it is.

I read the bunk you wrote.

It’s not his approval–and certainly not yours–that I’m after. At any rate, I didn’t misrepresent your bunk. I stated what other things fall into the same kind of logic you posited.

Actually, no.

I’m seeing a problem with the distribution of labor here:

the court’s job is to mete out a sentence that is appropriate to the established offenses…something like 5+ child sexual assualts? Probation?!

Modifying prophylactically a prison sentence due to imputed and unrealised crimes against the prisoner isn’t appropriate.

It is the prison authority’s job to secure the damned prisoners, not the bleeding heart judge’s job to modify the sentence in advance of such concerns.

I hope that the prosecution takes this to appelate, and that this judge gets fired/unelected/sanctioned for such stupidity.

The Attorney General is appealing.

Go play with someone else, Monty. Believe it or not, I have no interest in fighting with you for about the four-billionth time.
Niblet… Once a sentence has been handed down, isn’t an appeal on the grounds that it is too lenient a form of double jeopardy?

Don’t recall that much interaction with you.

Double jeopardy is trying the same defendant twice for the same crime. If, for example, X is acquited for endictment C, X cannot be retried on endictment C.

But can they be resentenced more harshly? If, for example, X gets 30 years for murder, can the DA decide to appeal in hopes of X getting the needle? If not, then what does the DA in this case hope to gain? If so, can the appeal follow appeal until the DA gets the sentence he wants?

Maybe it’s not double jeopardy, but it’s… something.

Pst, Clam, we’ve had several threads here about dysfunctional families where people have mentioned being molested by relatives.

It is one of the things you hear in pretty much every molestation-related movie of the week/cop series episode: the molester is likely to be someone the kid knows, highly likely to be a relative.

Want to borrow my grandfather?

It wasn’t so much the idea of someone sexually molesting a family member, which I understand is (regretabbly) not that unusual. It was the implication that a paedophile might marry and have kids with the explicit intention of having easy victims 5 or 10 years down the line- that was what depressed me.

Bah. Therefore the 14-year-old girl who has a monster crush on the hot 21-year-old next door cannot be the victim of a statutory rape by him, yesno? And Mandy Smith, who at 13 slept of her own free will with Bill Wyman, was only fulfilling the teen fantasy of millions of girls who’d have preferred Mick Jagger but wouldn’t turn down any Rolling Stone at a pinch? :smack:

keeps smacking this silly idea with a shot-filled sock until it ceases to show signs of life

(Difference is, of course, a large number of 14-year-old girls can and do lose their virginity with a much older guy - like the one who mentioned to me that she did it “to see what all the fuss was about”)

I remember my neighbour, Mary. She was unbelievably good looking (I have pictures of her from that time and my opinion of her hasn’t changed), 25yo, and one of her joys was teasing me on almost any occasion. And, my reaction to having a good looking female pay such attention to me, a 14/15 year old boy, was understandable and predictable. She found this even funnier. Now if there was a law against being a cock-tease, I can assure you I would have wanted it enforced. At no time would I have objected if it had went further than flirting. I still regret almost 30 years later that it didn’t.
So, if it had gone further, I guess she could have been charged with rape, but to what end? I would not have been coerced, I would not have been mentally (don’t know about physically?!) damaged, so what would be the point of charging her for what I still imagine could have been the best time of my life?
Now, if I had a 14 year old daughter, and some 25 year old guy decided to take a run at her, I’d probably be down at the hardware store buying a shovel and some quicklime in anticipation of our next meeting.
It may not be politically correct, it may not be entirely rational, but, I suspect, it is probably the way most guys think about the matter and it is reflected in the sentencing.

Shouldn’t ‘short people advocates’, or whatever one of those groups is that supported the decision, be completely offended that someone is implying that being short is really a negative?! I mean, if you need special treatment because you are ‘short’, isn’t that just reinforcing the notion that short people are somehow less able than others?

The judge basically patted the guy on the head and said, “Awe, poor wittle shorty can’t go to jail with all those big strong guys. Awe ::pat pat::, there there, my wittle cute defendant. We have a wee size wittle weg bwacelt for you. There there, ::pat pat::.”

Come on!!!

shrug Female-on-male statutory rape isn’t female-on-male statutory rape because female-on-male statutory rape isn’t female-on-male statutory rape. As shown by personal anecdote and appeal to popularity. No further questions m’lud (English for “Your Honor”).

This is very true, just last week a Defendant I prosecuted was sentenced. He was on his third marriage and he specifically targetted women who had small children.

Happy ending - he was sentenced to no less than 82 nor more than 125 years. There are times I love my job. (felony prosecutor).

And you actually think that former 14 year old girls would answer differently about the hot older man wanting to get it on with them? Because I wouldn’t.

This societal attitude that 14 year old girls are not sexual beings and don’t want to have sex, but are coerced into it by over-eager males is asinine.

It really saddens me to hear that. Sex offenders should be given the same sentences for the same crimes, not sentences that are based on their height, weight or gender.

Good call, catsix.

Statutory rape is just that. It doesn’t matter whether the child is male or female, or whether or not they consented.

Sure, when I was an adolescent, and before, there were grown women that I would have loved to have boinked. And had it happened, they would have been sex offenders. My being a horny and willing boy would change none of that.

I don’t want to turn this into a male-victim female-victim debate. I just wanted to point out that sentencing someone to probation instead of prison based on a physical characteristic like gender or height is ridiculous.

Unless the are found insane at trial (in which case they should be in a state mental hospital) or are in such precarious phyiscal shape that they would need to be in a secured hospital ward, there is no reason to consider physical characteristics in terms of sentencing.

This guy, and Debra Lafave, both having been convicted and/or plead guilty, should be in prison.

catsix, just stepping back in to say I agree with this sentiment entirely.

catsix, I’m not trying to get into a male/female victim debate either.

I just tried to express that statutory rape is just that. Perhaps I expressed it poorly, wouldn’t be the first time.

On topic: I don’t care if the perpetrator in the story is short. He molested a kid. Prison time.