Ugly, is he?! Look at who you're talking to!

Okay, this isn’t a rant, per se, but just a place to relate a story I couldn’t believe.

My friend, Lucy [name changed for privacy] is a girl who thinks very highly of herself.

On Valentine’s Day, an aquantince of mine (by no means a friend, but I have the occasional conversation with him) gave her a letter. Admittedly, it was a bit creepy, but it was also a big step, because this guy is very shy.

Her response? To laugh, and ask how he thought he even had a chance? She then proceeded to tell all of his friends how ugly he is, and how nerds shouldn’t like girls, since they’re nerds - it’s not normal (she actually said that). She then was talking about how he’s probably the ugliest guy in the school, and how he’s a complete idiot for even thinking he might have a chance with her.

Sigh.

Charming.

Any chance you can match her up with this fine fellow?. Sounds like they deserve each other.

I hope this is a middle school or high school we’re talking about, right?

Grade 11, specifically.

Actually, it was jesseboy’s masterful piece that reminded me of this.

I’m hoping kindergarten.

I just realized it looks like you’re insulting yourself with that thread title: “Ugly, is he?! Look at who you’re talking to!” She was talking to you, wasn’t she? Maybe you mean, “Look who’s talking”? Unless you’re ugly and wanted to point that out, I guess; in which case nevermind.

peepthis, I thought the same thing upon reading the OP. I’m assuming it was unintentional. :slight_smile:

Lucy is a bitch. Shy guy is better off without her, although he should stop giving letters to people he doesn’t know, which is creepy.

Nerds are sexy. Any woman who doesn’t realize that is really missing out.

Why are you friends with this person, Speaker?

Look at it this way.

All your “ugly, nerdy” friend has to do is go on with his life. He’ll win in the end. I know, because I was one of those “nerds” in high school. These days, my girlfriend guards me like a mother grizzly guards her cubs. She’s convinced that every woman who smiles and says hello to me is hitting on me. I don’t see it, but she’s more perceptive than I am.

If things go according to the universal pattern, “Lucy” will end up marrying the football hero and have six kids, get truly sloppy, live in a trailer with a burned out Camaro up on blocks in the front yard, and bitch at her worthless husband because he’s drinking up the paycheck he gets from his part-time job at the body shop.

Your friend will develop a career and a relationship with a grown-up woman who will appreciate him.

Karma, man. Karma.

“Friend” is a pretty loose title in this case.

Lucy has some unique views of the world. Guys should never want to get handjobs/blowjobs because it’s gross, but more importantly, it’s stupid of them to want pleasure.

The insult was intentional, because I posed that very question to her, and her response? “Well, I know you don’t find me attractive, so I don’t have to find you attractive. Anyway, he’s way uglier than you.”

She’s going to have a really hard life.

I apologize for misreading your OP. I get it now. Your “friend” is the bad actor here, and the guy is an “aquaintance.” Got it.

Maybe you should re-think the “friend” thing.

I knew a girl with attitude like Lucy in high school: Lynn B. She was about 5’3" but could somehow still manage to look down her nose at any guy who was “unworthy”

And she did, I truly shit you not, end up married to Joe L., the high-school football star, and living in a dump. Not a trailer, but a cinder block 3 room shack with a collection of pick-ups in various states of degeneration strewn about the amazingly grass-free yard…

You know, if I hadn’t seen an example of this phenomenon myself, I wouldn’t have believed it. The gorgeous cheerleader who went out of her way to make life as miserable as possible for me and the rest of the social rejects at school is now shockingly different.

It had been years since I saw her last. I pulled into the gas station. Because I was dressed-up, on my way to a dinner party, and have a bad habit of spilling gas on myself, I stopped at the full-service pump. Out she came, and my jaw dropped. She was almost 300 pounds, missing teeth, and had food stains on her blouse. Her once-lovely blond hair was frizzy and looked like straw. I could tell she knew me. For a moment, I had the mean impulse to be nasty, but recognizing that life had been its own revenge, I remained cordial. I actually felt bad for her.

What is it? Is it karma that extracts vengence for the downtrodden and teased teenagers of this world?

God knows his own, Lissa.

Or it could be karma, the infinite is open to interpretation.

Let’s just tell Speaker that things get better when you grow up, and leave it at that.

Even if Lucy ends up being a highly successful businesswoman with a handsome husband and two perfect kids living in a mansion in Beverley Hills, I still pity her.

What goes around comes around, even if it is not obvious. It seems to me that Lucy is already miserable and needs to make someone else miserable to make her feel better.

I feel sorry for both parties…I just hope that the nerd someday realizes that he came out the winner in this situation. He will someday find someone better.

Just for your information…I am NOT the Lucy spoken of in this thread! :stuck_out_tongue:

I am still reminded of one of those tabloid talk shows I saw a year or two ago.

A former cheerleader (popular “belle of the ball” type) is now in her 30s, has had a few kids, has gained weight, and feels ugly and plain. She’s on this show (it was Jenny Jones or something like that) because she’s so miserable and her friends want to help her. She thinks she’s so ugly and fat. She’s totally depressed. Beyond depressed. Crying and weeping and utterly miserable.

She even avoided her old friends when she saw them on the street, because she was so mortified at how she looked. The whole show was about trying to get this poor soul to stop hating herself, and start enjoying her life. But the thing was, she wasn’t really that bad off. She had nice kids, a nice husband, and she really didn’t look bad at all—just a little chubby. A perfectly average looking person as far as I could tell.

Now, I don’t know what her glorious youth was like as the most popular teenager in school, but I am guessing she probably had very shallow values. No, I don’t know if she was mean to others, but she may have been a silly twit. They showed her high school pictures, her “glory days”, and she remembered them with such fondness. It was like it was the best time of her life—being pretty, popular, and partying with all the “cool” kids.

The thing that got to me was how miserable this woman was now. She could not forgive herself for no longer being that beautiful popular cheerleader chick. So she took her perfectly ordinary, reasonably happy-looking life, and made it sound like it was the end of the world. Because she was a little chubby. A little dowdy. Oh my gosh. The tragedy of it all. The poor dear. Such melodrama.

Why was this woman so mornfully miserable and horrified because she was a little chubby and dowdy? My guess is that her own screwed up priorities, and her own self-absorbsion made her so. It was rather ludicrous to see her beat herself up about such trivial stuff. Being a little chubby is no big deal. Unless you happen to think that all fat people are beyond contempt; therefore you’re horrified when you become one of these dreaded people.

So, while everyone else on this show was pitying her, I saw things completely differently. I saw her current attitude as evidence (I suspect) of years of screwed-up priorities. So my conclusion is that when people are so shallow and empty-headed when they are young, they suffer for it dearly later on.

I was mildly surprised at the events as depicted by the OP, until I noticed the reference to school. Sadly, such things are practically a common occurrence in that environ.