I got bad news for you sunshine: Jesus didn’t die for your sins, he didn’t rise from the dead, and his tomb ain’t empty. Jesus is a pile of dusty bones somewhere in the desert. And before you come back in here and tell me “That’s not what the BIBLE says,” lemme tell you something else: the Bible lies.
And Allah is very disappointed that you have not been making your daily obeisances towards Mecca. It’s all in the Koran; check it out, before it’s too late.
I warned you, I really did.
Monty, there’s never going to be an end to our disagreements, let’s just accept it. You continue to call me a liar, a hater, etc. Some say I think I speak for God. Well, it’s like this and how many times have I said it? I can read the Word. If I see it saying that thus and such is wrong before God, then how is it wrong for me to agree? For crying out loud, give me a break. You remind me of a bunch of kids squabbling over what the moon is made of or something.
Kid A: I know the moon is made out of licorice!
Kid B: Oh, no! That’s not so, it’s made of cheese, haven’t you heard?
Kid C: Well, I saw something on TV that says it’s only a hologram. Etc. etc. And all the while Kid D knows that it’s made of rock. Poor example maybe, but all I can think of at the moment.
I’m tired of repeating myself to say I don’t hate anyone. I can’t tell you what your itching ears want to hear just to convince you I don’t hate you. God knows that I don’t. You guys say that I just don’t get it, well there’s plenty that you don’t get either in my humble opinion.
Hmmm, I want to talk to you again about Jesus being a dusty pile of bones, when you’re bowing before Him saying “Jesus is Lord”.
This was my entire point. Trust someone who’s been around here for about 5 years: this will not stop. It will stop when you stop. Did you read that verse I threw your way?
I’d be interested in having an email dialog with you on stuff like this thread and my point. It sounds like we come from similar backgrounds. No, this is not an ambush to scream at you in email.
His4Ever, you know that I have nothing but sympathy for your life and the choices you’ve made, and that I agree with you about the importance of accepting Jesus into your life. But in all honesty and sincerity, I feel that you’re missing the point of why people are getting down on you in this thread.
Some stuff I said earlier in this thread:
Quite simply, dear sister, you need to address these issues if you’re going to maintain any credibility as a witness for Him. You’re more than welcome to hold any views you choose – though it certainly helps if those views are able to be confirmed by evidence – but you need to be consistent in how you see things and to explain what you’re saying better than you have been.
Akhnaten’s tomb is empty too (there were grave robbers and pious Amonists desecrating the heretic pharaoh’s tomb). That doesn’t prove he was the Truth.
I’ve tried to give some understanding of what I saw Jesus saying in that passage you quoted – and it doesn’t mean “only evangelical Christians who have claimed me in an altar call are worthy of saving;” far from it – it was said to a disciple despairing at his Master’s announcing His imminent departure, as part of a message of comfort.
You’re more than welcome to proclaim the Gospel here – those of us who try to tell the Good News of Jesus here can always use more help – but the day you use my Lord and Savior to condemn other people and send them to Hell for not following your understanding of the Law, while excusing your own sins, you’ve made yourself over into a Pharisee in everybody’s eyes, including mine.
In all sincerity and Christian compassion, start talking with the people here, even about your Lord and your love for Him, and not “preaching” at them with Scriptural quotes, and you’ll be amazed at the change in perception of you, and the change of attitudes toward you.
In a thread that Lynn locked off for other reasons, gobear said:
Nice as this praise feels, I do not deserve it, and this is the precise thread to make a public apology in. Some months ago when we were having one of these Pitfests on approximately the same issues, I really laid Jersey Diamond out in lavender for her stance on the sinfulness of gay people, and the net effect that was having on the opinions of folks here about Christianity. I went over the top, and was duly called to task in a firm but calm e-mail by Joe_Cool, which I agreed not to discuss online. I only mention it here because Joe was right; the things I’d said about Jersey were totally unfair and beyond proper criticism – never mind that they were said because of the effect her posts were having on the attitudes of people here towards the Man that all three of us call Lord.
So, while I have no doubt you saw the response I made to Joe in e-mail, Jersey, since I castigated you publicly in the Pit, I want to make a public apology for going over the top and saying offensive things about your Christianity here in the Pit back then. I still feel that a more “we’re in this together” approach to witnessing works better than the “that’s a sin condemned in God’s Word” approach – but it does not justify – nothing could! – the language I used towards you. I’m sorry, and I want not just you but the board as a whole to know that I was out of line.
Never going to happen. Only Allah is lord, and he is mightily displeased in you for continuing to worship his prophet as a god. I’ll be thinking of you when I am in the Garden of Paradise and you are writhing in the Infernal Pits for your apostasy. But it’s not too late. Allah is merciful, and if you repent your sinful ways he will make a place for you in Heaven.
Apology accepted. I like you, Polycarp, though there are clearly things we don’t and probably never will agree on. Your kindness is appreciated. And I told myself I was going to cut down on my posting on this board. I have other boards to visit. Anyway, thanks.
I’m going to continue to trust Christ, thanks.
Colossians 2:9
So, the only “evangelical” in this thread doesn’t get a reply, eh? I don’t know how to read that. Is that because you don’t know how to handle being told to lay off by someone who probably mostly agrees with you, or just what? Did you read that verse? It’s not an attack on you, just a piece of advice, if thought about for a while.
Yes, I did read that verse and may e mail you and discuss it a little.
So, when you say you are going to leave a thread, His4Ever, why don’t you?
Your trust is misplaced, His4Ever. If you don’t recognize that Allah is the one true God and Mohammed is greatest prophet, you are surely damned. I care about you, His4Ever, and that’s why I don’t want you to have your entrails wound out of your abdomen by fork-tongued devils. And neither does Allah. So shape up, or else!
You’re correct in that I don’t agree with your interpretation of many of the Bible verses you’ve quoted. But to say that I don’t listen to anything you say makes me a much better guesser of what you’re going to say than I really am.
I find fault with your logic and your lack of contextual perspective, yes. I’m not the only one here who does, and you’re not the only person with whom I disagree on several of the items in which you profess undying, “This is the truth, forever and ever” belief in.
As for the latter, do you have a cite of this handy? That I try to clarify your position so I can understand it better I’ll freely admit to; if I’ve changed your words to the effect that they do not accurately represent your beliefs, please let me know.
Is that a puddle of H4e I see on the ground? Dear, I think you’re melting…
His4ever wrote:
Indeed. In fact, for many people, you appear to be an obstacle between them and heaven. 
WHOOOOOSHHH!!!
:smack:
Which reminds me, the dues for clique members are needed by January 1, so get them in soon. If you remember from the last meeting, we need to do some work on the hot tub in the club house. The water from it is leaking into the billiards room on the second floor and while the snooker table is the only thing damaged so far, your dues will help with repairs. Also let me remind clique members that if we are going to get that group rate for the trip to Jamaica, we need to get our reservations in by Christmas.
I sent mine in early. So much easier now that
The master started taking paypal and our Cecil Adams Signiture Edition Cell phones have gotten web access, so we can pay pool side. I still look forward to the day they just take it out of my check pre-tax, so I dont have to file that special form with the IRS to deduct it.
They told me I had to have at least 2,000 posts before I would be considered for the clique.
Now I know… I was being fed a line. I’ll necer have enough posts to get in. Is there somebody I can sleep with as to move up the ladder?
Coldie Does this mean that people can’t believe in sin and say on this board what they believe those sins are?
I’m not being sarcastic or snotty. I mean, if someone here said that, say, Palestinian bombers were morally wrong, I don’t think it would be jumped on any more than lots of other disputed opinions.
So, if His4ever has an unpopular opinion here about what’s immoral, is that the problem in itself, or is it the presentation of the opinion?