Has this been vetted by a reliable fact checker? Fate is rarely that on-point.
I think she viewed herself as some sort of action hero with plot armor.
That’s the problem, these people have been fed lies and fantasy for so long they no longer understand the difference between fiction and reality.
Wasn’t she a veteran who was actually deployed in a combat zone several times? You’d think she would know how guns and bullets really work.
Thanks–I posted an update, but there are so many fast-moving threads on this site I can’t even remember where I posted it. I can barely keep up with these threads.
Gadsen flag woman was pictured carrying the flag marching to the capitol:
Hitler is to Goodwin as Manson is to ???
I propose we call it ‘Gato’s Law’. 
Wasn’t she Air Force? They be in The Rear with the Gear.
When you’ve got a hundred people chasing you up a flight of stairs and you’ve got six shots in your revolver, starting the killing isn’t always a smart idea.
Maybe my favorite meme in that series was how – instead of calling suspects “perps --” they called them Goobers:
“I’ll see you wearing stripes, Goober !!”
Thus is, of course, ridiculous. Much more effective to pick the cases that may be winnable and place responsibility on the most relevant instigators; not somewhat gullible people with minor roles who ultimately did not do very much.
Reminds me of an old Denis Leary joke:
Gotta love Lou Gehrig. Jesus Christ, poor Lou Gehrig. Died of Lou Gehrig’s disease. How the hell do you not see that coming? You know. We used to tell him, Lou, there’s a disease with your name all over it, pal!
Gallows humor. I hope VPOTUS can chuckle at it, right now.
That’s some dark humor right there. Reminds me of the shot in “Red Dawn” where a Russian soldier is picking up a pistol from a dead guy whose bumper sticker reads “You can take my gun when you pry it from my cold dead hand”.
Don’t forget the guy who died from a medical emergency after tasering his own balls by accident.
I’d give … well … somebody a hundred bucks if I found out his last name was Saxinge.
A comedy interlude to lighten a heavy thread.
Jack McCoy would’ve figured out how to do an end run around the DOJ, arrest Trump, convict Trump and send him to prison. If only this were a TV show.
They should’ve made an exception to the DOJ policy for indicting a sitting President over this, he should’ve been in jail before sundown Wednesday.
They broke through a barrier; it wasn’t like they were just protesting, a fight broke out, and things then suddenly got out of hand amid the pandemonium. It was clear from the beginning that law enforcement restricted their access into the building; they pushed down a fence, they pushed law enforcement out of the way, and entered as an out-of-control mob anyway.
I don’t know if they are all guilty of “murder” per se, but anyone who pushed past the barrier and actively participated in the invasion of the capitol should seriously be considered for federal rioting charges and other types of felony charges. Their behavior was violent, even just being there was, in a sense, a manifestation of violent intent.
I hope they go after these folks internet history after they arrest them to look for what websites/videos/texts they’ve accessed so that cries of “I had no idea this was gonna happen; i was just there to peacefully demonstrate” are of no use.
He was the perfect cop for his era.
I’m sure they will. And I hope they’ll use those photos and videos to make more arrests and give us a better idea of what happened. If not now, at least in two weeks.
It dawned on me that this story is going to evolve because of the way information is being revealed. There weren’t any reporters on site at all. We are going to get access to a LOT more information about what happened on the inside.
Did I miss something, but have we heard from anyone in the FBI or DOJ yet? Have they given a press conference or released any substantial information other than “we’re looking into it”?
I guess if they say it was bad or cooperate with the media in any way they’ll piss off the baby and he won’t leave, so we don’t get to have a government for the next 11 days.
I never said, and neither did the constitutional scholar that I referenced, that there should be no charges at all. I firmly believe that people should be charged for the things that they actually did. The person or persons who killed the police officer should be charged with murder; the people who came in as part of the crowd, but didn’t actually attack anyone, should be charged commensurate with their crimes.
Here’s an account from NBC Congressional Reporter Haley Talbot. I’ll quote a fairly long excerpt:
I kept thinking that even though we were all sheltering under our chairs, we weren’t under any real threat.
And then the glass shattered.
A pane in the glass of the intricate doors to the Speaker’s Lobby were smashed through by rioters as they tried to make it onto the House floor and attack the very center of democracy in America.
I caught glimpses of the standoff below as officers barricaded the door and drew their guns to defend the dozens of people inside.
I started to hear the quiet whispering of prayer. A congresswoman I often see but didn’t recognize was holding the hands of other members as she crouched down and was praying over the group.
I started to think about what I would use defend our group if the mob were to smash through the third-floor glass and enter the gallery. The congresswoman next to me had a cane. That’s what I’d use. I thought about how I’d position myself to block as many people as possible.
As I was filming with my phone in one hand and texting furiously with the other, I noticed a representative next to me had fallen uncomfortably. I reached down to pull her closer. The members around me were almost all women and some of the bravest people I’ve seen. No one panicked, we held hands, we told each other it was going to be OK.
We were told the hallway was almost clear and we would be evacuating as soon as we could. “Where are we going, where are they taking us?” a member asked me repeatedly.
ETA - sorry, thought @Anne_Hedonia was asking about reporter coverage during the event, thus the reply to her. Still an interesting read.