My thinking exactly. They had no trouble at all getting her alone.
Maybe bullshitting is still more reliable than conversion? Or at least easier and faster?
The skin suits just have random features?
Upon reflection, being able to manipulate someone like that is more evil than replacing them…
But I still think Anna and Her Aide ate her.
Think of it this way; someone could find out all sorts of info on your mother or sister or daughter, especially if they had access to every private and government database. Let’s say they can perfectly duplicate her appearence. Unless they can also scan and upload her memories this will lead to you relative suddenly forgetting all sorts of private stuff, but being able to recal what grade she got in 8th grade shop, or her children’s birthdays, but how she comforts them when they think a monsters in the cupboard.
We are dealing with a TV show. A science fiction TV show.
A science fiction TV show about Lizards that have FTL.
Where was it shown the Vs had FTL? Their ships could have made the journey with sublight engines.
Aw, come on. Lizards in living human skin with anti gravity gotta have FTL.
Yeah, just because Wash is disgusted by humans, doesn’t mean all Visitors are.
If you’ve never heard Fifth Column in a positive sense, then you never watched the original V. Regardless of real world connotations, in this series it’s a callback to the original.
When did anyone say “Middleman sucks!”? I would like to have words with them. Middleman was awesome and should’ve been treated better by that stupid network.
I believed it to be a classical reference from antiquity.
Sir, you have fought ignorance indeed.
Just to clarify: I’m not saying the pilot’s wife was a V at the start of the episode. I’m saying that Anna rehearsed heart-felt condolences and tears for the entirely human wife, who then followed Anna somewhere like a gullible moron.
At that point, I figure they swapped in a Visitor in a “pilot’s wife” skinsuit.
that would make it a B movie though, and piss in the face of all the groundwork they laid to depict the Vs as evil, manipulative bastards.
they’re conquering by popular opinion, not force; they’ve placed spys into the population, instead of simply replacing people; and for goodness sake they’d invested all their resources converting their ship into a 40,000" HDTV instead of installing proper video recording into their floating eyeball of spikes thingy. (i mean, their assassins were using swords!)
this would be a very different show if they could just replace people at whim.
oh, just want to add that it’s nice to see that while the Veader looks fantastic on TV, her passport photo still manage to make her look dorky like alot of other people.

her passport photo still manage to make her look dorky like alot of other people.
That’s just the political “guy just like me you want to drink a beer with” plan they are coping.
**The fighter pilot’s wife:**I think Anna just used regular persuasion given her practicing it. We have seen some kind of persuasive machine - the guy on the table with the holographic snakes, which presumably is the same or related to the holographic table Dale was on - but it’s not clear whether it can directly brain wash people or is just a tool to help with that. I doubt there was time to really brain wash the wife even if it were possible.
The thing I don’t get is, in the first episode, we see the pilot parachute to safety. Did he have a rough landing or was this another pilot?
Dale being married: Anyone see Dexter? Marriage makes one seem more mundane and less suspicious.
Ryan apparently actually being into the whole “sex with mammals” thing: I don’t think that’s a 5thC thing, I think it’s just individual taste. Although undoubtedly many Vs do find humans repulsive on their own, for many beings repulsion is just as much societal mores as individual taste. Since the Vs all dress like humans and the sleeper Vs are asked to sleep with humans as part of their jobs, there’s no peer pressure to diminish any potential attraction to humans. If humans were all made to dress up as sheep and sleep with them as part of their job, probably more would admit to liking it than in a society where people frown on that sort of thing. Some humans will only have sex within their own narrowly defined racial group, some people don’t care about that, some even prefer another gender. And plenty of people don’t find others attractive until they form an emotional bond.

The phrase “Fifth Column”: The original Fifth Column were the bad guys; fascists in point of fact, and I’ve never heard the phrase used in a positive sense–fifth columnists are always evil subversives, boring from within on behalf of some external enemy, usually an evil ideology like Fascism or Communism. Interesting that the F.C. here is more along the lines of what would normally be termed “La Resistance”. I don’t know if there’s any significance to that, or if the writers are just maybe a little historically ignorant. (Or I guess you could fanwank it by claiming the V turncoats simply don’t quite have a 100% grasp of human idioms.)
I don’t think you read either of your sources. According to wikipedia, a fifth column is “a group of people who clandestinely undermine a larger group, such as a nation, from within, to the aid of an external enemy.” That fits perfectly and the original example was from the Spanish Civil War. The term is used regardless of who is the ‘bad guy’ since that distinction is obviously subjective in many conflicts. By tvtrope definitions, “La Resistance” is applicable only to the human fighting cells, whereas the 5thC Vs would be considered a group ofreverse moles.
In any case, the current writers didn’t come up with the term, the 5thC was the name for the sympathetic Vs in the original miniseries. In the original, it was the remnants of the Democratic government that existed on the V home planet before it was taken over by the military leader.
The cameras: I thought the weapon cameras weren’t low resolution so much as they were infrared.

The thing I don’t get is, in the first episode, we see the pilot parachute to safety. Did he have a rough landing or was this another pilot?
It’s a small parachute, perhaps not open all the way, and he splats down on his back and doesn’t move.

I don’t think you read either of your sources. According to wikipedia, a fifth column is “a group of people who clandestinely undermine a larger group, such as a nation, from within, to the aid of an external enemy.” That fits perfectly and the original example was from the Spanish Civil War. The term is used regardless of who is the ‘bad guy’ since that distinction is obviously subjective in many conflicts. By tvtrope definitions, “La Resistance” is applicable only to the human fighting cells, whereas the 5thC Vs would be considered a group ofreverse moles.
In any case, the current writers didn’t come up with the term, the 5thC was the name for the sympathetic Vs in the original miniseries. In the original, it was the remnants of the Democratic government that existed on the V home planet before it was taken over by the military leader.
The thing is, “Fifth Column” is never used positively, or to describe oneself. If you’re a Fascist, the “Fifth Columnists” are those diabolical Bolshevists who are boring from within to bring down the beloved Leader. If you’re a Communist, the “Fifth Columnists” are those decadent bourgeouis Enemies of the Workers attempting to betray the Revolution to the Fascists. It’s kind of like no one would ever call themselves a “Quisling”, even if they were the native-born puppet of a foreign occupation and fit the definition to a T. (Actually, “fifth column” did start out as a positive usage by those on the same side as the alleged “fifth columnists”–General Mola’s claim that his four army columns advancing on Madrid would be joined by a “fifth column” within the city. But it immediately gained an overwhelmingly negative connotation. I suppose Herr Quisling saw nothing wrong with the name “Quisling” either.)
It would make sense for Anna to describe the dissidents as a “Fifth Column”–it’s a rather remarkable degree of assimilation of our human idioms, but then it’s that kind of show–but from the point of view of the “Fifth Columnists” themselves, they are in fact “the resistance”, fighting to save their noble race of lizard-people from the oppressive rule of the beautiful but tyrannical Anna.
I was not aware that “Fifth Column” was in the original show–I never watched it–so I guess it belongs in the same category as having a Commander outrank a Colonel on the remake of Battlestar Galactica. As noted, perhaps the Fifth Columnists just missed a bit of the human English idiom. Or maybe the term originally was used by Anna, who intended it pejoratively, but the F.C.'ers themselves picked up the insult and made it a badge of honor, as (lizard)people are sometimes wont to do.

**The fighter pilot’s wife:**I think Anna just used regular persuasion given her practicing it. We have seen some kind of persuasive machine - the guy on the table with the holographic snakes, which presumably is the same or related to the holographic table Dale was on…
That’s pretty much how “conversion” worked in the original. Except istead of lying on a tabe the victim was forced to stand in a beam of light with a laserbeam circling it. Oh and instead of being stripped to their underwear they wore a flesh-coloured full body leotard (which is also how the Vs dressed humans being put into cold storage for food shipments). It seemed like more of an art than a science in the original and Diana had to be very careful to avoid killing the subject. It also made people use their non-dominant hand for some reason.
The Spanish guy who created the term considered himself a good guy.
The term originated with a 1936 radio address by Emilio Mola, an insurgent general during the 1936–39 Spanish Civil War. As his army approached Madrid, he broadcast a message that the four columns of his forces outside the city would be supported by a “fifth column” of his supporters inside the city