What's sexier: innocence or experience?

I have found that men with experience are less likely to want to alter their techniques to suit the individual they’re with. They are set in their ways and think that because they’ve been with plenty of women, they’re experts and have nothing else to learn. This is by no means true of all experienced men, but I have found that it’s tough to teach an old dog new tricks. A young pup, though, is usually willing and eager to learn, once you take the edge off.

The closest I’ve had to inexperience is being about number 3 or 4, so I don’t really have a frame of reference. I might like to try an innocent for variety. I’ve thought in the past that it might be fun to teach (break in) a nice young thing. I agree with others in this thread that the innocent has to want to rid themselves of the innocence. I’m not really into convincing or coercing; not a turn-on.

One thing that gets a lot of guys going is the innocent-looking but lusty woman. The reason the “girl next door” types do well in Playboy and other porn is that there’s real arousal value in a girl who doesn’t look the type but really likes to suck dick or <insert fun/kinky sex act here>. Most guys don’t like girls who look like whores, they like girls who look sexy but not too overt, act nice and proper in public, and would make a whore blush at the enthusiasm the girls exhibit when they get them back to the bedroom.

But maybe that’s a good thing. :wink:

See, that’s a rough question. I guess what attracts me to virgins is the idea that I’d be appreciated, not taken for granted.

My last boyfriend was very experienced but (as I was I find out) very selfish in bed. He knew what he was doing, but what’s the point in knowing if you’re never going to do it? I’d rather have a virgin who was enthusiastic about pleasing me than an experienced guy who is going to use you and then fall asleep :frowning:

ideally, innocence with open-mindedness. as has been stated, innocence as a personality trait is appealing to myself. an innocent outlook on things, in a partner, helps me have a better outlook on things. plus id prefer to learn with a partner, rather than teach or be taught.

You mean for the less-than-best-looking guys in the place? :slight_smile:

I liked mza662’s point, about preferring to “learn together with a partner” rather than teach/be-taught.

Experienced? Innocent?

I’m with eagerly enthusiastic, open-minded, tolerant, and realistic.

As someone else pointed out, “experienced” to the point of jaded doesn’t quite do it – and never mind experienced to the point of looking upon me as the one who doesn’t know jack. In the most selfish sense, I want to neither be expected to be the teacher who will lead the disciple to an advanced degree, nor be expected to already have the advanced degree myself and be scored on measuring up.

Also, the whole deal about the experienced bringing in “the knowledge that neither of us wanted to play mind games or the like” – that’s not necessarily directly correlational to experience. Some people mature quickly.

As a virgin in my late 20s who only a few days ago experienced my first makeout session ever, I don’t know how to answer this.

I’m a little scared about women who seem experienced because I feel like I may be too far behind them to catch up easily. (And all the posters that say they don’t want to spend lots of time teaching don’t exactly help this.) On the other hand, I don’t want to fumble around with someone who is as inexperienced as I am if we can’t learn together.

The person I made out with was in her early 20s and much more experienced than I was (though maybe not super-duper experienced). She had to teach me. It seemed to work out OK and she seemed to like teaching me (though I don’t know how much). I’m not sure I could have done that with someone who was inexperienced. In any case, I’m afraid I wouldn’t have done a good job.

Unfortunately, making out may have hurt a very good friendship. We were friends and she had a boyfriend. We admitted feelings for each other while she was still with him. She broke up with her boyfriend about a week ago and we ended up making out. Basically I asked her if we could be together (not intending to pressure her, but, in effect, doing so (stupid! stupid!)), then asked her whether we could make out. She said not right now and OK respectively. Later she said she was freaking out about what we had done and was feeling as if we couldn’t be friends.

I’m not certain how much experience would have helped in that situation, but it might helped. I guess experience would have helped if I had been able to take the right lessons from past experiences, but might have made it even worse if I took the wrong lessons. Experience might have also kept me out of that situation.

I don’t know how her level of experience would have changed things either.

It seems to me that experience/inexperience is not the best indicator of whether two people would be good together. Perhaps as a rough guide, but, as has been mentioned before, there is good experienced and bad experienced, just as there is good innocent and bad innocent. And furthermore different people might do better with different levels of experience in their partner.

I meant that in bed, sucking is kind of fun.

It was a lot funnier in my head.

As a virgin in my late 20s who only a few days ago experienced my first makeout session ever, I don’t know how to answer this.

I’m a little scared about women who seem experienced because I feel like I may be too far behind them to catch up easily. (And all the posters that say they don’t want to spend lots of time teaching don’t exactly help this.) On the other hand, I don’t want to fumble around with someone who is as inexperienced as I am if we can’t learn together.

The person I made out with was in her early 20s and much more experienced than I was (though maybe not super-duper experienced). She had to teach me. It seemed to work out OK and she seemed to like teaching me (though I don’t know how much). I’m not sure I could have done that with someone who was inexperienced. In any case, I’m afraid I wouldn’t have done a good job.

Unfortunately, making out may have hurt a very good friendship. We were friends and she had a boyfriend. We admitted feelings for each other while she was still with him. She broke up with her boyfriend about a week ago and we ended up making out. Basically I asked her if we could be together (not intending to pressure her, but, in effect, doing so (stupid! stupid!)), then asked her whether we could make out. She said not right now and OK respectively. Later she said she was freaking out about what we had done and was feeling as if we couldn’t be friends.

I’m not certain how much experience would have helped in that situation, but it might helped. I guess experience would have helped if I had been able to take the right lessons from past experiences, but might have made it even worse if I took the wrong lessons. Experience might have also kept me out of that situation.

I don’t know how her level of experience would have changed things either.

It seems to me that experience/inexperience is not the best indicator of whether two people would be good together. Perhaps as a rough guide, but, as has been mentioned before, there is good experienced and bad experienced, just as there is good innocent and bad innocent. And furthermore different people might do better with different levels of experience in their partner.

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It’s not you . . . my timing and comprehension have been off all week. . . :frowning:

Sorry about the simulpost, my internet went down and I had to fix it. I thought the post didn’t go through, but it turns out it did.

I love virgins.

They’re innocent. They’re sexy.

There’s the purity factor. They haven’t been penetrated yet. They’re fresh. But they are of the ripening sexuality that is waiting to burst free. They can have sex. And they choose to do it with me. And I can do all my sexy tricks on them. And they’re so inexperienced they just lay back and appreciate. Also watching a girl giving you a blowjob for what is her first time is just the most sensous experience ever. It makes me feel alive. And eating her out for what is her first time, the tickling, all that stuff is just soooooooooooo… oh I don’t know.
The idea turns me on a lot.