hands CERVAISE a vial of comments Here; I think you’re almost out.
Hands GUIN a brick Here; bang yourself in the head with this a few times; you’ll get the same result without the time-consuming typing. When you’re done, hand it to EXPRIX.
That wasn’t all that seemed familiar.
Everybody ready for this little blast from the past?
Sigh…
Bill, I would have hoped that no one would have to explain the difference between a) disliking your opinion and considering it moronial, and b) believing that your opinion should be silenced.
I think your opinion is stupid, and I think you are a moron, but I will stand up for your right to spout idocies until the cows come home. I wish you would shut up and go away, but I believe that you have the right to stay here and be stupid.
Get it? Good. Carry on.
I don’t suppose that you realize that the ACLU is virtually all about the First Amendment?
You might as well say that the NRA are hypocrites for not fighting against the First Amendment. It’s not what they’re about, so why should they?
It is no organization’s obligation to take on everything constitutional, especially when another organization exists which already makes it’s primary concern said issue.
At this point, potshots are too redundant.
andygirl, I do have to kinda sorta disagree with you about the ACLU. I’d say their work is divided between First, Fourth and Fifth Amendment interest cases, with a smattering of Title IX. As you say, though, their emphasis tends to be on the First, as that (along with the Fourth) is where the most egregious violations tend to take place.
Bill’s problem is he can’t keep his reasons for not liking them straight:
- First it’s because they “take away the rights of Christians,” but he is shown evidence that they often defend the rights of Christians, so he changes it to
- They defend the KKK and the Nazis, but he realizes that that’s not going to stick due to the sheer ludicrousness of the objection, so maybe it’s because
- They used the Bible in an ad that he’s told he’s not supposed to approve of, but even that reason is ephemeral because
- They don’t defend Second Amendment rights.
Frankly, I’m thrilled that Bill and his ilk use professional shitbag Jay Sekulow and the ACLJ for their cases. Keeps 'em all together, so we can more easily identify them and herd them into special camps. Whoops–did I say that or think it?
Upon further review… yep, Phil, you’re right.
Apologies for my misstatement.
Phi_, you _eriou__y owe my co_pany a new _eyboard.
He didn’t call you a moron for expressing your opinion, he said that you were a moron.
In that same post, you told me
That may have been the laziest, most pathetic, “blow off” answer I’ve ever seen. I would have respected “I don’t know, but I’ll try to find out” with a legitmate follow-up. I’m wondering if Cervaise and PLDennison aren’t not too far off the mark.
How in the world can you witness when someone tosses you a softball question and you just shrug and say “I dunno. You figger it out.”?! Haven’t you heard of rhetoric? Logic? Apologetics? I don’t care what faith you are: knowledge of why you believe is essential! You’re from a faith that produced C.S. Lewis, Thomas Aquinas(sp), Dante, Madelyne L’Engle, George MacDonald to name just a tiny fraction of Christianity’s great thinkers and writers! I can’t imagine any of them saying “Garwsh! That’s a hard question. It makes muh haid hurt! Go 'way.”
You declined to answer my questions and I answered yet another of yours (the “evolution” one. Did you read it?) so you still owe me at least one answer and I really would like an answer this one question:How in the world can you believe in something if you don’t at least apprehend it?! I understand the arguement that God is too big for anyone to comprehend fully, but to not even know the answers to basic questions about what you believe?
Fenris
And the judges hold up a row of perfect 10s.
Fundie etiquette yet again.
Acting like a moron: polite.
Calling someone a moron when they act like one: rude.
WB, people would respect you a lot more if you weren’t so rude to them. Why do I say you are rude? Because while you do not use profanity or engage in namecalling, you don’t listen to a damn thing anyone says.
-Ben
Actually, ignorance of mudskippers seems to be spreading among fundies. The other day I saw a “Jesus lives and fish don’t walk” bumper sticker. Sheesh… and evolution is supposed to be what drives people away from such idiocy?
-Ben
Could you elaborate on this more? To wit:
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Do you oppose freedom of religion?
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What do you feel is the appropriate role of the Bible in public schools?
BTW, WB, if separation of church and state is so offensive to you, you can always move to a more religious country. Perhaps Saudi Arabia would be more to your liking?
-Ben
The quote has already been shown to you. As for the latter:
1.) A minority of the founders of the ACLU were “communists.”
2.) What did the term “communist” mean at the time?
3.) Why do you find their communism to be problematic?
-Ben
Could you provide a specific example of the ACLU twisting the Constitution out of context?
-Ben
Bill,
Are you so completely opaque as to not realize that your ability to practice the religion of your choice stems from the exact same taproot of our constitution that free speech comes from? I detest Nazis, the Klan represents some of the worst in <cough>(sub)<cough> human nature, yet I can only call up the old saw:
“I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.”
You seem to have lulled yourself into the illusion that there is a Christian majority in power in the United States. Not only are you wrong, but you seem incapable of realizing that there might come the day when your faith is in the minority.
Would you like to find your religion and your right to practice it openly, suppressed in any way shape or form?
Your unwillingness to accord even this much freedom to those that you oppose is the cesspool which breeds all oppression, even one that would persecute your own faith. (I believe that the Anit-Christ comes into play somewhere about here, eh Bill?) I hope that you are somehow able to grasp the import of this single fact. It has a remote chance of crowbarring open your tightly shut mind.
PS: Word Cervaise! A perfect 10.0
Can I say how surprised I am that no one has picked up on this one yet?
You said it yourself, Bill.
Nice catch. Now if only we could convince FriendofGod that this were true, perhaps he’d stop delegating who is and who isn’t Christian according to FoG.
It may hurt, but I really must :rolleyes: .
Thank you.
Esprix
I think WB is beyond our help.
Just give up.
Ah, but it’s so entertaining! THIS is truly the test for us soldiers in the Fight Against Ignorance, is it not?
Bill is demonstrating a defense mechanism known as splitting–that is, dividing the world into the 100% good and the 100% bad. No shades of gray. No discussion necessary.
Bill and his friends? Good.
Lawyers and cops? Bad.
The Bible? Good.
Evolution? Bad.
ACLJ? Good.
ACLU? Bad.
Additionally, he often expresses surprise and disappointment when he is taken to task by someone he considers to be “a friend”.
Splitting is most commonly associated with borderline personality disorder, which from his posts I’m willing to say Bill does not have. (Dr. J’s Five S’s of BPD: splitting, suicidality/self-mutilation, swinging moods, self-image problems, and shitty luck with relationships. Bill, near as I can tell, is one for five, unless you count his driving habits as suicidal.)
I think that splitting, in this case, is simply the lazy man’s way of looking at the world. You don’t have to think about things very much when you only have two drawers to file them in.
This also explains Bill’s inability to blame himself for anything. He’s “good”, so if six/seven cops pull him over, it must be their fault. If he gets sued repeatedly, it can’t be his fault–it must be that lawyers are “bad”.
Bill, there’s an old Russian proverb that says when ten people tell you you’re drunk, go lie down. I would add the corollary that if one of those people is Polycarp, you should probably think about going to meetings.
Dr. J