In her 911 call, she said George Zimmerman punched her dad in the nose, knocking his glasses off and leaving a mark on his face, and was also touching his gun and asking them to come closer. It’s not clear if the gun fondling occurred in the house during the altercation or while George was sitting in his car outside the residence, or both.
Merged duplicate threads.
Just my opinion: He got away with murder once and now believes he’s bullet proof.
It’s no surprise that the whole Zimmerman family is coming apart. They’ve been under incredible stress for a year and half. I’m sure they are still getting constant death threats. I know his parents had to flee their retirement home because the address was sent out over twitter. He’s jobless and probably bored out of his mind. That’s probably why he’s been pulled over on the highway driving. Now his marriage is falling apart.
I hope he can pull it together and make a new life. Right now he’s still free falling. It may be a long, long way down before he comes back up.
It’s the wife’s fault for wearing a hoodie.
You may not have intended it to sound like this, but I think the cause-and-effect is wrong here. It was falling apart before the shooting, and his wife said that they’d argued the night of the Martin killing, which is why she wasn’t around when it happened.
It’s neither ironic nor a useful observation.
Then actually he’s not a murderer, is he?
so much for that :rolleyes:
I think Zimmerman’s obituary is going to end with some variation of “Then he tried it on Rorschach… and Rorschach dropped him down an elevator shaft.”
Sooner or later you just know the WWE is going to come knocking on George’s door. Now THAT is a pay-per-view event I would actually pay for.
And subsequent police interviews with the media have said that she was lying; no gun was involved.
Your comments on that development?
Clearly, someone is lying.
Yea, but it’s not like she’s a convicted liar.
I agree.
Is there some reason to trust one story over the other, given that someone is lying?
And if there is a reason, is the reason Crafter_Man suggests a good one?
It seems to me the answer is no – there’s no good reason to credit any given story at this point. But if one felt one simply had to adopt a belief in one story, I’d say the usual formula is that convicted perjurers are not typically seen as paragons of truth.
It depends on the source of information. I don’t know who told the police there was no gun, but Zimmerman’s attorney Mark O’Mara confirmed to Anderson Cooper on CNN last night that Zimmerman did indeed have a gun on him at the time of the incident:
So, either O’Mara is lying, or the police source is lying.
Nope – both might be true. The police source said a gun wasn’t “involved.” That could mean O’Mara’s comment is true.
O’Mara said "There were some reports that he did not have a gun, but he did"at about 1:55 in this video. So somebody was reporting had no gun.
Perhaps so – but in post 91, I specifically mentioned police reports that claimed a gun wasn’t involved.
And of course this isn’t a binary situation: someone may well have claimed no gun was present; others that no gun was involved; still others that a gun was used.
The police reports are conflicted as well; Fox is reporting police said there was no gun on Zimmerman.
Not only that:
I can understand someone in a panic on the phone with 911, and then upon calmer, safer reflection acknowledging that there was no actual gun in view – just a gesture.
Of course, I can also imagine someone explicitly claiming to have a gun and threatening his estranged wife, even if he didn’t have one.
But the fact remains that my imagination is not a substitute for actual facts. And so far as I can tell, there is no compelling reason to adopt belief in one story over another at present.
Do you agree?