Chloe: “Whatever…! It’s just like you, Edgar, to go and die when I need your help cracking this password…”
You’re right. What was I thinking?
So any estimates on the number of people in CTU who died? I don’t have much of a feel for how big the place is - I mean, it looked like there were only about 20 survivors, and the place is normally pretty busy, so does that mean 50 or 60 people in the facility died?
So where is everyone tonite…quiet thread. Just watched it off the DVR myself and I must say I got giddy when Jack shot Henderson’s wife in the leg. That was sweet! Finally some unbashed violence and Bauer persuasion.
This whole Tony thing is irritating me. They keep talking like he’s in critical condition, he was practically blown up, yet the extent of his injuries appear to be some minor abrasions on his neck and a singed ear. Gimme a break, I realize 24 has a limited sFX and makeup budget, but dontcha think you could spring for a few sutures, a halo brace and a maybe a splint somewhere?
Did anyone else think Edgar was going to discover the nerve gas canister at the last second and somehow sacrifice himself to save everyone? I kinda thought he’d smother it with his copious belly trapping the gas inside before it could open.
I thought he was going to be the hero, and I wasn’t even thinking he was going to have to sacrifice himself to do it. Then he walked away from the canister and I’m all like 
WTF?
Dammit, he was one of my favourite characters… and the sad puppy look on Chloe’s face just put me over the edge. Not Edgar!
What a great pair of episodes, though.
Brilliant how quickly things turned around when Jack not-quite-kneecapped Mrs. Henderson. He shot an innocent woman in the leg, and it only took Weller seconds to reassert himself as the nastiest guy in the room with a shrug. “Oh, come on! I just shot your wife in the leg. Show some emotion! DO IT NOW! Ah, crap, you’re a total bastard. Forget about it. Can I get an ambulance here? I’m really sorry about that, sweetie. Let me help you out with that boo-boo.”
And then the look on her face, showing she’s more shocked by her husband’s reaction than by her old acquaintance who just unloaded into her shapely limb.
That’s good TV.
Duh! Cutting up rails. Just the thing.
Yep, and Jack really thought that was going to sway him – where he knew that shooting HIM in the leg wouldn’t work. I liked the bit where Henderson said “Just like I taught you…” So now we know where Jack picked up that trick (which worked on the terrorist guy at the start of Season 4).
I apologize if this has been brought up in prior seasons’ discussions, but where is the drinking game that involves a double gulp everytime Jack mentions hundreds/thousands/MILLIONS WILL DIE!? I think there were three occasions in this two-hour beauty.
Twelve hours to go, huh? I’m on my knees, praying with President Logan that Kim will find a way to be less annoying here than in past seasons.
Pray with me, Dopers. Please?
I’m also getting annoyed every time Logan talks to CTU on the phone and rants things like, “Well, why haven’t you found ALL the cannisters of nerve gas by now! Stop making excuses and do your job! Blah Blah Blah, I’m incompetent and I need somebody to yell at!”
I keep wanting Bill to say something like, “Well, sir, we’ve just spent the last couple of hours (1) SAVING the Russian president and your wife from assassination… (2) SAVING an assload of lives in the hospital, intercepting another of the cannisters of nerve gas… But no… don’t thank us or anything…” Muttering: “You pomous moron…”
Uh, it may as well be explosive, if it’s under enough pressure. You’d probably need something engineered to withstand a couple hundred pounds of pressure PSI – or, like, something really big.
I do have this one fantasy that involves a Chloe and bouncy-castle that’s been stowed in a storage closet since the last CTU family picnic, but I have doubts about how likely it would be that they could find one in time to work out a way of sealing the cannister inside it.
My thoughts:
-Never help the terrorists. They always kill you once you’ve done what they want. And nobody ever figures this out. Hell, 9/11 did happen in this timeline too, so you’d think people would be less trusting of terrorists.
-I feel no sympathy for skankita or her cokehead boyfriend.
-Lynn is going to prison if he doesn’t save everyone or die.
-Chase left Kim? I bet he was just tired of rescuing her from the numerous couger traps she’d get trapped in on her way to the grocery store and back. Or her bugging him all the time at work, just like she did to jack.
Kim: “I don’t know what to name our baby”
Chase: “Sorry, Kim, I’m kind of on a mission right now”
Kim: “Why can you never talk to me? You’re just like my dad!”
-Trust Kim with Jack’s Secrets? HAHAHAAHHAA! Like when Jack told her about the Nuclear bomb, and she proceeded to tell everyone she ran across until the end of the day? If you want to keep something secret, don’t tell Kim.
-Tony is the Phantom of the Opera. Half is face is hidden, and when he takes the cover off, it turns out there was no reason to have it in the first place(as per the movie musical).
-Tony in critical condition? Since when? He looked like he was doing pretty well an hour ago.
-Vice President Dugan is now running the country by proxy. As usual, Logan has no balls or the ability to stand up againest his idential twin/VP.
-I don’t feel too bad for Edger. He missed several oppurtunties to locate the nerve gas by not taking what’s her names warning seriously, by not looking on her screem to see where she was going, and by completely missing the big-ass nerve gas cansister in the same room. Edger was too incompetant to live, frankly.
-All gas canisters have big-ass LED timers.
-Jack really hates hedersons wife. A “could I look at your husbands computer?” would have likely gone smoother without pulling a gun on her.
-Why does Logan even keep Mike around if he never plans to actually listen to him?
-Kim “Can I talk to my father?” DAMNIT, KIM, HAVEN’T YOU LEARNED BY NOW? YOUR DAD IS WORKING! HE DOESN’T HAVE TIME TO DEAL WITH YOUR PERSONAL PROBLEMS!
How does 2 hours fly by so fast? Just before Jack shot Mrs. My Husbands a Saint, I said don’t shoot Weller shoot her; and “Bang” . I’m not sure what that says about me or the writers, of course I always knew I was a sick bastard. By the way, I must spend too much time on this board; I swear I thought she was going to say “Why do you hate America”.
Btw, who did that girl call, and what were they doing. “hello” “gasp”… “gasp”… THUMP. Hmmmm… must have been a wrong number.
Man that sucks not Edgar.
On the nitpickey side…
Did anyone else get a creepy vibe from the first lady with the whole “Oh… you were being Presidential” thing. I was waiting for the porn music to start.
Bonus joke:
“You know, Fox turned into a hardcore sex channel so gradually, I didn’t even notice.”
Overall: I give these episodes a B
Also, I just needed to point out, since I brought it up in this thread, that none of us were right. But I think this occasion made me more sad than any other.
She’s off to a bad start. She’s already bugging him while he’s working. Kim, seriously, nothing you have to say to Jack is nearly as important as what he may be doing at the moment. The only time that hasn’t been true is when you got kidnapped in season 1, but you’ve been abusing it ever since.
Well, if Kim were a normal person, she would have said, “Gee, my dad’s been ‘dead’ for the last year and a half, and now I’m told he’s still alive and on his way to CTU. Now, I grew up as a CTU daughter…hell, I even worked here. Maybe I ought to ask someone what’s going on today that brings all this about. Must be kind of important or something. Golly gee.”
But, we’re talking about Kougar Kim, and she doesn’t think of these things. Hopefully the gas and the running and the dying will clue her in some.
This whole “thinking Daddy is dead but he’s really alive” business should be old hat to Kim by now. She seemed overly surprised by it, but it’s happened before, when she thought he went down with the nuke plane in Season 2. Of course, it didn’t take 18 months to learn he was alive that time, but still…
And I guess this is the first time we’ve heard that Chase left her. I think it would have been amusing if she’d shown up with Behrooz as her current boyfriend. 
Edgar was definitely worthy of the silent countdown. {Moment of silence as I type this…} My favorite remains George Mason’s nuclear-fired redemption. Edgar’s death served no purpose other than to make us sad. Which it did. Oh well, maybe he’ll be reincarnated as Agent Lipari on the Sopranos this coming Sunday.
Definitely was interesting to see Leland Palmer show up as the Vice President. Is there no end to the vaguely malevolent figures in the Logan administration? If only Secret Service Agent Aaron was in the line of succession. Imagine an administration of Jack, Black Bauer and Agent Aaron. The terrorists would never have a chance!
Curtis is going to make a detour by the local Sharper Image and pick up a few Ionic Breeze units.
How does Tony’s face get so badly burned, yet his hair is untouched?
The Vice President is definitely in with the other “patriots” like Walt. Novak will find him out soon enough.
This show is getting way too sappy this season. I’m tired of all the emotional stuff between Pres. Wussy and his wife, Jack and Audrey, Jack and Kim. Please just give us what we want: more torture.
SamWise has turned in a horrible acting performance this season. I think his time is up soon enough–and I’m glad. His acting last night when he heard the news about his sister was pathetic.
OK, if Lynn didn’t fess up to security after he got mugged so they’d let him into CTU, how did he get back in again? Would they have just let him pass on visual? I must have missed it.
They’re going to have to vent CTU, if it’s not venting already (don’t know if shutting off the outside vents is part of lockdown). This is the first full-on gas attack - as good a reason to declare martial law as any! I’m not enough of a chemical weapons expert to know how sentox degrades. Yes I saw next week’s preview.
Good idea about Lynn making the ultimate sacrifice. It’s his fault he didn’t tell anybody about the key card. It would be just like him to bluster his way out of it, though. I don’t know what he’d do, besides something stupid like run full speed into a glass partition (“ooof! that’s gonna hurt.”). Chloe seems to have all the building services at her fingertips.
The second Carrie was killed I thought ‘we’re going to lose Edgar’ - though it didn’t happen the way I thought it would.
I loved the “you sorry piece of shit” look Aaron gave President Wrinklebottom when he got off the chopper.
So we have Tony and Henderson in Medical; Jack, Kim, Buchanan, Barry, Chloe, Audrey and who else, in the situation room?
I was thinking the same thing about throwing a hefty over the canister, at least to buy some time. No shortage of big biohazard bags in a hospital. The CTU guys did express fear over tampering with the canister, though, so the bag-the-gas idea might have died on the vine because of that.
Huge Spoiler … Stating fact on something episodes away.
I know for a fact that US Armed Forces will get involved. Not so much in the actual writing of the show, but they WILL show up near the end of the Season.
The Pentagon Channel did a news type article on 24, and interviewed ACTUAL Soldiers who were used as extras, and very minor characters.
– So Just saying from my huge spoiler, that if indeed my spoiler does occur, the Authorities of those people mentioned will have some influence on the writing of those episodes… in small pieces, if not for a substantial part of those eps.