Dear CitizenPained

Heh, she won’t quit…

Oh well… Maybe she’s down a quarry?

I still want to know where he goes when you’re crying uncontrollably or gazing at your ultrasound or when you’ve taken some serious downers and a bit of alcohol.

I don’t think it’s wrong to do any of those things per say (although mixing drugs and alcohol is questionable), but it sounds like this poor kid has nowhere to escape to. He has no space of his own. I think you’re wildly underestimating how much of this a kid that age can see and take in, even if you’re trying to keep it from him. I also think you’re underestimating how much he would be driven to act happy and act like everything is okay because he feels responsible for your happiness.

Dear Penthouse,

I never thought this would happen to me, but the other day…

CP, you have a habit in your posting, presumably reflective of how you handle real life situations, that is not doing you any favors.

I refer to this: when someone criticizes you, you immediately embellish it so that it reads as a cruel, unwarranted attack. Examples abound (see the “stale” Cheerios and “framed” photos I referred to earlier), most recently your aggrieved claim that you are not a “slut” or a “madam”. As you well know, people haven’t accused you of being a slut, and certainly not of being a madam.

By putting words into people’s mouths that they never said, you get to be the victim and you also get to ostensibly show up the lies of others. For example, the whole “I don’t even have a nightstand!” claim was designed to make it appear that you are some poor innocent defending yourself against others who stoop so low as to lie about the furniture you possess. But no one ever said you own a nightstand.

When you are busy defending yourself against the lies that other posters never told, you don’t have to think reflectively about whether there are any worthwhile insights to be had from what others are telling you. You can dismiss everything they say, because they are “lying.” I’m not a mental health expert, but I guarantee you that deliberately twisting the words of others so that you can bitterly blame them for not understanding, comforting and helping you is NOT a productive strategy for improving your life.

For what its worth, I believe the majority of what you are saying about your life story - the inconsistencies can be chalked up to exaggeration or sloppy writing. This in no way excuses your histrionics. I hope you get the real life help you need and that your son needs for you to obtain.

Posted at 3:06 pm

Yet you responded with another rant at 11:06 pm… a full 8 hours later.

Please since you don’t want to take any one else’s advise, take your own.

Or, as you so nicely posted in another thread from a Doper asking for advise in how to handle a difficult situation in their life…

You’ve got your act so together… I really look forward to you telling me how I mis-quoted you and that wasn’t anything like what you said.

And, please add some $xxx figures in your post like you usually do so we can keep our spreadsheets up to date on how much you have generously spent v. how much you have been cheated out of v. how much we should give you so your life would be better (except it is perfect, and we are mis-quoting you, or whatever).

Oh yeah, one last thing… buy your kid a fucking bed instead of getting highlights in your hair.

Fot what it’s worth, CP mentioned a $10/hr babysitter. I don’t imagine a seven year old is a welcome third wheel during sexy time.

CP, if getting your son a bed is no big deal then why did you mention it? From what you’d written I inferred you intended to buy him a bed imminently but had to delay because of your finances. Now that you’ve clarified that he doesn’t need or want one immediately, I want to understand why you mentioned it at all.

This is not dissimilar to the cereal thing, where you linked sending cereal in his bag lunch to your shopping anxiety but then clarified that it’s a fun treat for him. That means it has nothing at all to do with your anxiety… so why did you mention it?

If you don’t want to look like a liar, try not to post like that. If I wrote “Great, unexpected bills. Now I can’t afford lunch this week, or the deposit for a house”, wouldn’t you think I had been planning to put down the deposit for a house this week? If people said “If your finances are so tight that you can’t afford lunch then you shouldn’t be buying a house” and I clarified that I only hoped to someday buy a home, didn’t mean I was doing it immediately, wouldn’t you be confused that I had even mentioned it? And if I did it over and over, you might even begin to suspect I was lying and changing my story when I realised I looked bad.

Go back, reread what you wrote and tell me it’s unfair that everyone believed you were planning to buy a bed until your finances went south. And if you were planning to buy an unneeded, unwanted bed… Why?? Why now? Why, at this time, pre-abortion and pre-dental work, and pre- all the other bills and expenses you detailed, why would you choose now to buy a bed?

This isn’t to say that you don’t need to get him a bed (You do. Not because he’ll be irreversibly warped or because you’ll have no choice but to have rumpy pumpy beside him, but simply because you both need a space of your own and privacy from each other for your own health of mind), but there are thing that clearly need to be a higher priority and THEN the bed can be dealt with.

Never mind.

The *only *way CP’s posting style will mature is if we stop reinforcing her childish behavior. It’s pretty easy to avoid her threads. Either she’ll start posting like an adult, or she’ll take her bullshit someplace else.

If you think she’s an exaggerating (or lying) trainwreck, stop reading (and more importantly, replying to) her threads. If she is lying or exaggerating, why would she stop just because you point it out? Why do people think feeding attention-seeking behavior (even with negative attention) works? Sure, come to the pit and make fun of the train as it derails, but don’t validate the demands for attention. The only way this kind of posting will stop is from lack of response by the board-at-large. Negative attention is no different than positive attention, because attention is about absolute value more than +/-. Believe it or not, attention = 0 is far more powerful than attention = -∞

I’d hate to see an Opal-esque meltdown by CP, because those have extremely obnoxious effects on the board. But every thread she makes seems to be heading further down that path.

Posters come to the the pit for recreational drama. Always have - always will. Meltdowns in the pit don’t have “extremely obnoxious effects” on this message board and never will.

CP is getting the attention she’s coveting. Let her have it, stop nannying.

I’m not talking about meltdowns in the pit. I specifically recommended coming to the pit to watch the train derail. I’m talking about meltdowns in MPSIMS or IMHO (like Opal’s), which are imminent unless people stop giving CP attention in the threads she creates. Sorry if I didn’t make that clear.

My point is that people who bitch and moan about CP’s attention-whoring in the threads she creates are simultaneously enabling the attention-whoring they criticize. It’s counterproductive and more than a little hypocritical.

That’s why I said this is a horrible positive feed-back loop. The problem is that CP feels the need to defend herself. But in doing so, she posts TMI and ends up digging herself deeper.

No one likes to be accused of lying. She doesn’t and neither do her opponents. So when she says people are making shit up and plays the lawyer, she invites people to parrot back her words, which makes her come back again. And the cycle repeats.

I wish this thread could be closed like the other one. That’s the only way we’ll make it stop, and CP can actually do what she needs to do and step away from the SD for awhile.

Was going to agree with rachelellogram about not feeding the tro…er… irresponsible parent, before realizing that this thread provides too much amusement for too many people. It has intrinsic value of being an early-morning snicker-read for those of us with nothing better to do.

Coming from this point of view (and not believing that CitizenPained is even 50% truthful), I look forward to the next installment of the drama. :wink:

Yes. For some reason she is fixated on the sex part (although I must say to be her age and having sex like teens do is sad, but maybe that’s what does it for her…).

I have no doubt that this boy is desperately trying to make his mommy happy-and at 7, that is tragic. They both need professional help and a more stable support system, not hysteria on a message board.

Agree 100%. However, I doubt she’ll take your sage advice.

All her back-pedaling and post-published editing of her own words also makes me very skeptical about her honesty. In the STD thread, she can’t seem to keep straight whether it’s an ectopic pregnancy (which is an emergency), or a regular pregnancy, or even a pregnancy at all (at 6 weeks after her last period, the ER couldn’t find any sign of a fetus). Nor could she keep straight how many times she went to the ER (Was it 3 times or twice?). From the get-go, she says she’s going to abort the alien, then later says she’d have a drink but won’t because she’s pregant. Then she downs a whole host of narcotics to deal with the pain of her (ectopic, regular,non-existent) pregnancy. Please, pick a predicament and stick with it.

Then we have the whole financial situation. She can’t afford a bed, she can afford a bed, she wants a new couch, she can afford to have a root canal but only if she doesn’t pay for an abortion, she pays for part of her’s son’s school, pays a sitter $10/hour, but doesn’t qualify for reduced lunches. Mind boggling really.

Yeah, the whole thing is a trainwreck.

…still no update on where Mr. Agoraphobic-STD-Knocker-Upper is. What’s that guy doing towards her current situation, since he’s the one that caused the most imminent problem here?

She needs to dump that disease-carrying, useless son of a bitch. He keeps giving her checks and then canceling them, according to her posts.

This makes no sense. When you move to an expensive neighborhood for school purposes it is because they have much better public schools, meaning that even though your rent or mortgage increased that extra cost is okay because your kid gets a better education. And I know a number of parents who moved into cheap apartments in less than stellar neighborhoods so that they could afford to send their kids to private school. Moving to a higher cost of living neighborhood and paying for private school seems ridiculous unless your move was across the state or some other huge distance too far to drive in the morning. I would say that doing both is proof that you do not manage money just fine unless the move was totally unrelated to the school issue.

CP I know you won’t listen. I have not ever attacked you. I am following this with morbid fascination.

Two things I have said. I asked you what you hope to accomplish by putting out every bad thing that happens to you on the internet. You have not answered that. I and others have pointed out to you that all your real life information is so closely connected with your user name that anyone who has heard of google now knows about your personal, medical and mental history. You have not addressed this.

I will say one more thing then I’ll sit back and watch the train burning. Sometimes what we write does not come across the way we want it to. Sometimes as the author its hard to see that. I will give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you just have no idea that there is a communication problem on your end. But here is what I have seen over and over again.

CP: I can’t believe this (insert random personal problem) is happening to me

Doper(or multiple doper): wait a minute you are doing (random problem restated) and you don’t see that you are contributing to it?

CP: Stop being mean (random problem) isn’t so bad and I’m a good person because (insert random mitigating factors not even hinted at in the original post).

Rinse
Repeat

You can’t see that it might be a problem on your end? Your name did not get picked out of a hat for everyone to be mean to.

Below will be the only advice I give to your non-Dope problems. Feel free to ignore like you have with most of everything.

And get the kid a damn bed already. You’re the parent, don’t wait for him to ask. You are supposed to be telling him what to do not the other way around.

But he promised her a PUPPY! You know, another living being that needs to be taken out for walks and fed and taken for vet appointments and socialized…

…by someone who admits that she can barely get herself outta the house to buy groceries. :rolleyes:

Please, God, Universe, whatever, don’t let this woman get a puppy.

Changed your name CP eh?