Guys, Y U no listen?

Upon what do you base this assertion?

I don’t know why you would be more concerned with MOL sexual needs than the guys? If it’s simply personal, and you think the guys a douche, I guess. I’d be more concerned for her safety.

WebMd says otherwise.

this is an excellent book: every woman should read it.

Yeah I’m very interested to see where this random sputtering is going to lead us. What is the ultimate hypothesis here? That men are more desiring of sex, and women are withholding it, therefore we should not be surprised when men are motivated to do rude and/or dangerous things as a result of that frustration? And the prostitution would fix this? Because it’s like poverty and crime, and if you withhold sex…then…what?

Why are you more concerned with his sexual frustration? How about no one ever holds the expectation that another person satisfy the urges they alone are responsible for and they alone can satisfy without assistance? Wouldn’t that be better?

WebMd didn’t say that. Columnist Richard Sine did.

I’m interested to see if you’re you g to offer any solutions of your own.

Nobody even knows what “solution” you’re offering for what “problem” you’re addressing. What is the problem according to you?

Solutions to what? MOL solved it. No more Mrs. Nice Guy even on the rainiest of nights. That guy’s ill-mannered expression of frustration isn’t my problem, nor is it yours.

panaccione, I feel like you are confusing a desire with a need. Sex does not equal food, shelter, or oxygen. No one “deserves” sexual gratification from another. No one’s health will decline, no one can legitimately blame crime on his/her unsatisfied sexual desires, and no one will die without sex.

The problem you’re alluding to is the opposite of what you are leaning towards: your solution is to give horny men the sex they desire. If I were to propose a solution, it would be to remove any sense of entitlement from those horny men.

The root of this guy’s issue. Can we look past his actions? There is no question that it is the most inexecusable and objectionable aspect to the whole story.

Ok, fair enough. I guess I didn’t consider that. Care to elaborate on how you remove this sense of entitlement?

Which is what? What is at the root of his issue? You seem to be suggesting it is sexual frustration and that prostitution solves it.

Yeah. It’s just a hypothesis.

beat off

you’re welcome

Prostitution is not a viable solution, because we already have it and it’s not working. I’ve seen no good research establishing a link between common prostitution and low rates of sexual assault or harassment. For your hypothesis to be worthwhile, it must at minimum predict such a link, yes?

Here’s my solution: change sex ed to include very clear information on consent. MeanOldLady’s posts in this thread could be part of the curriculum.

And I’m only slightly joking. I’m very unlikely ever to have a son, but I’ve long thought that if I did, I’d make such issues integral to my son’s sex ed, and they’ll certainly be a big part of what I teach my daughters when the time comes. A school curriculum that doesn’t teach kids exactly what consent means and how to navigate the murky waters of understanding and giving consent is failing our kids. The OP is exhibit A.

Edit: colander, I was thinking of offering a similar solution

If dialogue doesn’t do it, then social and legal repercussions will have to suffice.

I’m sure he does.

that is some buffalo bill shit right there

who else lives in you, pannacione

She’s venting about something with ridiculously obvious solutions:

(1) Call a cab 15 minutes before the restaurant closes

(2) Call the cab before you leave the restaurant

(3) Whip out your phone and call the cab yourself

This is how the dating world works. I believe there have been exactly three recorded instances of a woman inviting a man on the first date back to her apartment with the explicit purpose to have sex. To paraphrase Robin from How I Met Your Mother: “A Lady invents a respectable excuse to invite a man over when she wants to get stuck real good. It’s called class”. Her complaint is essentially “I sent mixed signals and a guy got the wrong idea”. YAWN

have you considered maybe not getting your dating advice from shitty network sitcoms.

(it is kind of like trying to get home improvement advice by putting your ear to that funny hole someone drilled into the men’s toilet stall separator)

thanks in advance