I'm fat according to you so, what? You hate me?

Gee, I’m a newbie here, but I know a troll when I see one.

Mark may not be overweight yet, but if you keep feeding this troll, he soon will be.


  • A rose by any other name would still have thorns -

I have been on this board a hell of a lot longer than you (suggestion - lurk for a while and get to know the people and the feel of the board before you jump in with your doofisms) and I can assure you that with the exception of one (a recent post written in anger), I have never seen a poster display bigotry towards race.

Neither. Both are despicable, but why don’t you ask your pop and maw?

Bullshit. Only a bigot would assume that everyone is the same as him and that it is natural.

Oh please tell me, how am I a bigot? I think you are a disgusting excuse for a human being, but unless you are the sole survivor of some freaky race (hey, I think I may have uncovered something here), you can’t call my feeling toward you bigotry.

Don’t go giving yourself credit for getting me angry, I am not. Anger and disgust are too separate things.

For the most part (said the spider to the fly), I just enjoy watching you become a hysterical mass of goo, otherwise, I wouldn’t waste my time antagonizing you.

Get it? P-o-i-n-t. . . . p-i-n-h-e-a-d. . . . Aren’t you the punny one.

You have one? Where?

Leave your sex life outa this.

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I have labored just as hard to keep a fat person alive as I have with thin. {/quote]

God knows how many people you have saved from death by pneumonia with those toasty, warm moccasins you sweated over.

Then keep it to yourself. I don’t see anyone here trying to steal it away from you, but thanks for clarifying.

But according to you all these fat people don’t exercise. So which is it, Beavis?

I’ll try, but I don’t know if I can’t get into the position to see anything. I have a hand mirror and I can put both feet behind my head, do you that that will work?

Your face and my ass, ass, ass?


>^,^<
KITTEN
Please tell your pants it’s not polite to point.

Sorry to be so anal, but I’m going to fix my quote.

God knows how many people you have saved from death by pneumonia with those toasty, warm moccasins you sweated over.


>^,^<
KITTEN
Please tell your pants it’s not polite to point.

Gr8Kat,
There is a post for you in MPSIMS.

OK, back to the subject of this thread.


Ayesha - Lioness


You sound reasonable. Must be time to up my medication.

This is just too much.

Mark is hopeless. Most bigots will be at least a little sheepish when confronted with their bigotry. We all have our prejudices, the difference between most of us and Mark is that we (I assume) would not be proud of our bigotry - we’d back away and try to retract some of it, when confronted with it. We’d have enough social awareness to know that it was bad.

Mark just digs in deeper and deeper. That’s the way he is - and it is utterly astonishing.

I also think we are feeding this troll, as Cactus Rose says - he must be getting something out of all this negative attention, after all - he keeps coming back.

Mark, what exactly is it that you hate about the fat people? Is it the laziness or the fat? Is it the unhealthy diet they consume or the physical result of that diet? I weigh 100 lbs and I NEVER exercise. Never. I eat whatever I want whenever I want. I consume junk food and starchy pastas and breads all the time. I never take the stairs if there is an elevator available. I am a very well proportioned 100 lbs. People think I work out to offset the quantity of food I take in. Now, are you repulsed me too, because I’m a lazy slug, or do I get a pass because it looks fabulous on me? And quit coming off like some kind of doctor or something, anticipating broken bones and “reading” the dark circles under the eyes, as if it were possible to do either. You come off as some self-important, all-seeing wizard, when all you really are is a bigot. Although you try to come off as being some super-intelligent being that somehow can read more into a person’s appearance than the rest of us, you have no special abilities. You refuse to see past outward appearances, you embrace illegal hiring practices (for the good of the company - BULLSHIT), and you seem to think you have special powers that allow you to see the future. What a crock of shit.

Mark, what exactly is it that you hate about the fat people? Is it the laziness or the fat? Is it the unhealthy diet they consume or the physical result of that diet? I weigh 100 lbs and I NEVER exercise. Never. I eat whatever I want whenever I want. I consume junk food and starchy pastas and breads all the time. I never take the stairs if there is an elevator available. I am a very well proportioned 100 lbs. People think I work out to offset the quantity of food I take in. Now, are you repulsed me too, because I’m a lazy slug, or do I get a pass because it looks fabulous on me? And quit coming off like some kind of doctor or something, anticipating broken bones and “reading” the dark circles under the eyes, as if it were possible to do either. You come off as some self-important, all-seeing wizard, when all you really are is a bigot. Although you try to come off as being some super-intelligent being that somehow can read more into a person’s appearance than the rest of us, you have no special abilities. You refuse to see past outward appearances, you embrace illegal hiring practices (for the good of the company - BULLSHIT), and you seem to think you have special powers that allow you to see the future. What a crock of shit.

Sorry about the double post.

Does Mark’s obsession with overweight people and the hate he feels for them strike anyone else as being remarkable similar to homophobic men who are repressing their own homosexual tendencies?

He spews buckets of vomitous bile, spends paragraphs obsessing about the very thing that supposedly repulses him so, defends his bigotry as right and normal, and can’t seem to get through his head the difference between personal preferences and unwarranted judgemental assumptions.

If he were talking about gay men this way, I’d say he was probably a repressed homosexual.

If he were talking about black people this way, I’d guess that there might be some wite-out covering up a branch of his family tree.

I can’t help but think that he’s remarkably like the person writing the capalert movie reviews, except that the capalert guy obsesses over and condemns sex and popular culture while Mark is masturbating over how much he hates fat.

I’ve been following this board with some interest for several days now and I think that some of you have gone far overboard with your aggression towards the Prime Instigator, MarkSerlin.

Firstly, I think I better establish myself here. I’m 28. 5’2’’, and I weigh in at 112 pounds. I used to weigh in at 175. I took the weight off and keep it off though I am fully aware that many people cannot for many reasons.

Having been fat for many years, I know what many fat people go through and I did not like it myself and it made me feel pretty shitty. I had and have many fat friends and much of what MarkSerlin says basically applies to many of them.

I’ve got the fat (I will not disguise it as he has by calling it ‘hefty,’ ‘big’ or ‘heavy’ nor ‘large,’ ‘pleasingly plump,’ nor ‘obese’) girl friends who insist on dressing down, as he has pointed out. They wear the baggy shirts, the BIG TROUSERS, baseball caps, the short, short hair, the big rebocks, very little makeup, and each one gets upset when men make comments concerning their unflattering appearance. None will listen to me about dressing more ladylike even though I can order in many lovely things for them in my shop.

Mark, from what I can see, stated his position completely and factually, which I respect. I know I disliked people talking behind my back about how fat I was and even worse, to my face. Then, which he should have expected, he was attacked rather seriously.

He has answered every question put to him and many of you have chosen to ignore the answers, attempted to confuse him, attempted to twist things around, picked at not very important parts of his postings and taken other sections deliberately out of context. (Gee wiz and golly, all of that looks so familiar! Many of my fat friends do it in defense of themselves and even I used to.)

My, my the roundabout attacks that have been directed at him are like a pack of Pirahana (Sorry about the spelling :)) in a feeding frenzy. One of you has focused on attacking him through his parents, another one insists on claiming that he is an obvious idiot, another makes fun of his past careers while some have thrown up into his face that they are disabled and not responsible for their weight and when he apologizes, throw it back savagely into his face while culling approval and sympathy from the others.

Did he not state that he is disabled also?

I haven’t seen an idiotic attack like this since the race riots in LA. I am surprised that this guy is still responding to you all. I’ve seen Gay guys go this nuts after asking a straight if he is homophobic. --Which he denied but made the mistake of saying that he simply had problems grasping the Gay concept.–

I think you all need to lighten up and take a look at what Mark has been saying. He is right, you know, Dears, because you all did start the attack on him. He did not respond as well as he should have in some areas, but so what?

Nothing like a good old mass stomp, right? Hell man, gets yer friends to jump in also and jump all over MarkSerlin.

Dang! I’ve heard that girls can be nastier than guys and it sure as shit looks it here. Diane, you sign off as kitten, but from what you been writing, Pole Cat should be a better name for you. GirlFace, you just as bad. None of you mouthy beasts really been readin what he been saying anyhow, just lashing out like a bunch of idiots.

I got to say also that he’s right about bigotry and anyone here who say they aint bigotted in some way is a damn liar and we all know it. I’ve been around a long time and I’ve met a lot of folks and I can’t say that I’ve ever met one who isn’t a bigot in some way or another.

He embraced illegal pratices in his job? Damn right he probably did. You work as a manager, you make good bucks and if you fight the system, you back to digging ditches at minimum wage. Did he not point out that he tried to change such stuff once and got his ass fired? I guess you all forgot about that, didn’t you?

I dunno about you all, but I worked plenty of places where there were labor violations and if you didn’t like it, they fired your ass and hired in someone who would. You blow the whistle and some shit in the Department of Labor spills the beans and your boss finds out and your ass is gone also. (Whistleblower protection act aint worth shit most of the time.)

Most common bit of crap is working salaried people way past what they contracted for and not giving them any compensation pay. (Salaried people, according to the LAW, get overtime if they work past the origonal amount of hours they contracted for.) And, doodoo-for-brains out there, any good manager DOES DO WHAT HE SAID HE DID WHEN EVALUATING PEOPLE. I know I have when I was in the hiring seat, only I looked for dilated or super-contracted pupils, track marks, too damn many facial scars and jailhouse tattoos. Then I made the bugger piss in a bottle and sent it in for testing. Booze, coke, speed, pot, anything they might be on.

Get off his damn back and stop acting like the assholes you certainly have turned into.


The Night Watch always knows things.

Byzantine
I almost forgot. You started this. You set the tone for this and you get your butt all packed up on your shoulders when someone tells you the truth? Ayesha, sorry about your problems lady and I wish you the best but that wasn’t real nice of you to slap MarkSerlin’s appology publically right back in his face and go on a tirade.

I can’t foget Opalcat. Real cute, those pictures. He was right, though. You did look hot back then and you don’t look so hot now no matter what your reasons are. Simple truth, ma’m.

From what I can see here, none of you wants the truth on anything. Mark should have just lied his ass off to you folks.


The Night Watch always knows things.

I don’t know, NITWATCH, Opal’s, like, far from my best friend, but FWIW, I think she’s pretty hot. Libby, too.


“Come on, Phonics Monkey–drum!”

At least some of this can be attributed to the forum. As a newbie, you did read the forum descriptions, didn’t you?

Rich

Hmmmm… Anita and Nit are both new members whose only posts have been in this thread. They’re both from AOL, just like Mark. How much do the initiated want to bet that Mark sent his friends a little link? How much do you want to bet that they’ll start denying it by their very next posts?

Oh, and thanks, Phil.

Want to look into your own bigotries? (From me)

FROM: DIANE

I’ll try, but I don’t know if I can’t get into the position to see anything. I have a hand mirror and I can put both feet behind my head, do you that that will work?


Well, I always assumed that you had your head up your ass, and now you’ve just proved it. Tell me, if you yell in that position, does it echo back?

Mark
“Think of it as Evolution in action.”

This is not true. In my first post in this thread, I asked you how you would ascertain the underlying reasons for one’s weight. You answered that question with an answer that was close, but not completely correct; I corrected it. I also asked what your reaction would be to a hypothetical large person upon seeing her with no additional information; you have continued to avoid answering that question. In my second post in this thread, I did not ask you any questions, I attempted to enlighten you about the underlying reasons for excess weight. Apparently my attempt failed.

I see that you agree with my correction to your initial answer to this question.

And here’s where your argument breaks down. Once again, you are attributing a person’s weight to laziness with no foundation. Being “bitchy” about one’s weight has no correlation to the reason behind that weight. Being defensive about one’s weight is probably more of a sign that laziness is not the cause, but I’m not sure you’ll understand that.

This anecdote has no bearing on your argument about laziness. I’m not sure if it was addressed to me, since it immediately follows a paragraph that was addressed to me, or if you just included it in your post randomly.
Likewise for your admission that naked obese people repulse you included in the first paragraph.

Thank you. This clears up your side of the argument nicely, and makes any further attempts to elicit rational arguments unnecessary.

Yes. The point of your list is that many people hold many intolerant, often irrational, beliefs, none of them pretty.

Which one? Seriously, this statement is laughable. I doubt that you know even one-tenth of one percent of the myriad of reasons that may tend to cause one to gain and carry excess weight. Obviously, though, given your admission above, this is immaterial.

The problem with bigotry in general is that those who are bigoted tend not to realize that their bigotry is, in fact, influencing their lives fairly dramatically, as well as the lives of others. Your own admission about your illegal hiring practices illustrates this quite nicely.

I respect your right to judge overweight people based on their appearance alone. I hope you’ll respect my right to judge you an oaf based on your words alone.

Rich

DON’T ANYONE DEFEND OR TAKE MY SIDE IF YOU ARE FROM AOL!! YOU WILL BE PROMPTLY SUSPECTED AS BEING STOOGES!

I GUESS THAT MAKES GR8KAT, MERLIN, LYNNBODDNI AND MRSENSITIVITY101 ALSO STOOGES!

The jigs up, people. We’ve been found out by these over suspicious and paranoidal posters. Turn in your memberships and be very ashamed. BAD! BAD! BAD! BAD POSTERS!


Mark
“Think of it as Evolution in action.”

WAIT! AOL gives us the space for SEVEN screen names. I could actually be 7 different people posting here just to confuse you simpletions.

I might be Merlin or Saki Samauri ( I can get, thru AOL, free e-mail on different ISPs and access the board from there. I might actually be lurking on YAHOO.COM or ATT.NET.)

Bit me dip stick!


Mark
“Think of it as Evolution in action.”

Hamster couch step-dad. The pink balloon rises at noon.

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