I'm fat according to you so, what? You hate me?

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OPALCAT:

Checked out the ‘before’ picture of you, read your posts and have to say that you were a hot number. You stated you became fat after having a child. Refer back to a couple of my previous posts concerning weight gain after delivery.

Yes, I checked out your webcam site and observed the current you. From what I can tell, you’re one of the types I’m talking about. You have the ability to remove the weight you gained. You probably also had the ability to control the amount of weight you were putting on prior to delivery. Bad knees? Knee splints from the local medical supply store help. If not, then I suggest a trip to your local physician – though I do understand that this could cost a fortune just to get a diagnosis.

In Pix 2, had you dyed your hair reddish, you’d look a lot like Scully on the X-files.

A little note here. I am disabled temporarily. My normal activities have changed dramatically even though I can get around freely. The decrease in activity makes it very easy for me to pound on the pounds, especially since I have discovered a fondness for crappy snacks (cheddar cheese flavored pretzels, those GREAT orange colored crackers with cheez or Pnut butter in them, chocolate kisses, and about a stick of margarine with each meal) but once I discovered that I was getting too heavy, I started controlling my weight. (PLEEZ NOTE THAT JUST BECAUSE I AM DISABLED AND DOING THIS THAT I DO NOT EXPECT ALL DISABLED PEOPLE TO DO THE SAME.)

The medication I have to take (yuck!) makes me very sensitive to heat, so I stay – here in Florida – in air conditioning. Another part of the condition often makes me sleep a lot so I tend to be mainly active at night. (THAT makes my neighbors suspicious) I am able to do strenuous physical activity only for short periods of time, then need to rest and cool down before going on and eventually I just run out of steam. (Really shitty for someone who used to work steadily all day long.) BUT - I still control my weight and it is not often easy but I do it.

Quite interesting how one can develop a taste for chicken broth - low calorie - and have it make up two of the days meals. Run out of those WONDERFUL crackers? I don’t go to the all night store for about a week and buy more.

I used to cook professionally. (Hash slinger in an institution.) I LOVE good food. I also make things like spaghetti sauce and SKIM off the fats. I know how to trim meats and how to make good, low fat stews and soups.

(Little cooking tip here. If you love those nice fat sausages, Italian in make, in your tomato sauce, know that they are often PACKED WITH FAT! The more little white dots you see in the casing, the more FAT-FAT-FAT they contain. Fine. Pan fry or boil them but first prick the casings A LOT and let the grease drain out. THEN add them to your sauce and let simmer. Skim off any fat which rises to the top after cooking.)

Now, granted because of my current decrease in activity, weight loss takes a bit longer, but I DO IT.

Oh yeah – in reply to MR. MUSCLES - (SYLENCE) - Byte me! (Notice how safe I feel being about 600 or so miles away from him.) My younger brother is a body builder and he has problems controlling the inevitable ring of fat around his middle. Plus, there is a DIFFERENCE between muscle weight and FAT! Muscle is the weight worked for and fat is not. (Oh, ages back, I used to pump iron and am fully aware of the desirability of muscle weight gain. I also know that if one is not careful, those same muscles quickly turn into fat if you stop.) I strongly suggest that you might have to clean out some of the fat clogging your head.

GEEZ Opal, you must have made a bunch of money in tips when you were dancing.

Mark
“Think of it as Evolution in action.”

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No it isn’t just you, but then again, what can you expect from an idiot who wrote that bullshit about obese children and discipline. (BTW Mark, don’t even pretend to go head to head with Tom’s knowledge. He’ll stomp all over your fat skull.)

Anyone else get the impression that Mark and Sake are as ugly as their posts? Come on dickwads, let’s see your pics, unless of course, you are afraid to show yourselves because you aren’t perfect. You know, some of us are offended by those who show their ugliness in public. Have you considered a ski mask and muzzle so you don’t turn our stomachs? Your ugly is dripping all over this message board, and trust me, it is a lot more offensive than seeing overweight people who are not dressed to your standards. You’re gross and disgusting.

Unless you are an Adonis with wonderful personality, shut your fucking pie hole. Comprehende’?

Maybe you could jog in spiked heels? :wink:

>^,^<
KITTEN
Please tell your pants it’s not polite to point.

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What a pathetic story. So it wasn’t her that he loved, but her thin body, and when she didn’t have it any more, he didn’t love her any more. I guess when he recited the words, “For better or for worse, in sickness and in health, 'til death do us part,” he didn’t think they applied to him. Looks like he figured he had an out because he wasn’t required to say, “in fatness and in thinness, for lighter or for heavier.” How petty.

“I hope life isn’t a big joke, because I don’t get it,” Jack Handy

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Oh yeah, and whoopty-fuckin-do that Marky boy watches his weight.

Have you ever thought that some of these people who YOU think should lose weight, don’t want to? It isn’t your decision, it is theirs.

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KITTEN
Please tell your pants it’s not polite to point.

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Mark, you have lousy taste in friends. Anyone who would leave someone they MARRIED because of an unplanned weight gain is about the sorriest piece of crap that ever came down the pike. Don’t you wonder when he’ll decide you don’t look good enough to be his friend? Maybe when the hair gets a little too gray, the skin a little too wrinkled, the eyes a bit less focused than a few years ago. And what about a debilitating disease or accident? Will you be good enough for him if you get disfigured in a car wreck or have to live in a wheel chair the rest of your life? I would be embarrassed to categorize a person like that as a friend.

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Oh, no - I have been found out! Here’s my damn picture:

http://www.powernet.net/~lwpaine/lp/musa/musashimaru_b0521.jpg

Please, no comments on my de-luxe spandex undies. I only wear them when I go to the park to feed the birds.

Hell is Other People.

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Here is my picture ladies - please note the pretty spandex thong I wear while feeding the birds:

http://www.powernet.net/~lwpaine/lp/musa/musashimaru_b0521.jpg

Hell is Other People.

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I am a twin, you see. . .

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Thanks Sake.

After seeing your photo I must say that you are much more physically attractive than your personality led me to believe.

>^,^<
KITTEN
Please tell your pants it’s not polite to point.

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::winking & leering:: You and me, candlelight, jasmine incense, lots of big pillows, my king-sized spandex sheets, and fourteen pounds of fudge. What do you think?

Hell is Other People.

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Back to the OP, I’m impressed with the bench press thing. If you’re fat, I’m certainly not gonna be the one to tell you.
Jill

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No thanks.

I like my men gorgeous on the outside as well as the inside.

But hey, speaking of fudge. . . .

I am sure you and Mark both have a hard time getting dates with your ugly personalities, maybe the two of you could get together, eh?

>^,^<
KITTEN
Please tell your pants it’s not polite to point.

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Just wanted to make one other point, and this is not meant to be judgemental or critical. Pregnancy doesn’t “make” women get fat. You gain some and keep some, sure, and age has something to do with it, but - in my case - having small kids around and no time to prepare meals, my eating habits also changed then and I was getting less exercise, and that did it for me. I kept on about 15 extra pounds for a year or two.

But just about anyone can lose weight if they really want to. I’m not just talking about vanity or to please a mate. Fitness is a good value to have if you care about yourself - not just how others view you. Hell, it’s also a good value if you want to live a long time and be able to practice soccer with your kids. And I’m not saying it’s easy to lose weight or to start an exercise program… I don’t feel judgemental towards those who are fighting that battle. One of the best public health nurses I know is over 300 pounds and is an effective health educator. I feel for people who are overweight, because it’s uncomfortable for them, it’s bad for their health, and they face terrible discrimination for it which is unfair.

But it bugs me a little when people tell me I’m “lucky” to be slender. Uh, I run five miles every other day and weight train three times a week. I exercise on my lunch hour or at dawn so it doesn’t interfere with my work or family life. And my primary motivation - the thing that keeps me doing it - is not to look good in clothes. I do it because it makes ME feel GREAT, physically and mentally.
Jill
for some reason I think I’m going to get flamed for this.

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I’m sorry…I have to post once more…
I wish to God that the Internet had the ability to give shock therapy to people, because Mark is in serious need of it.

My 2cents:
Mark- go fuck yourself. You are an asshole of major proporitons.

I only wish there was an automatic “ignore” feature for this board, as after reading this drivel I don’t even want to see this assholes’ name again.

A friend is someone who likes you even though you’re as ugly as a hat full of assholes.
Zettecity

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OK, I have heretofore restrained from replying to this thread, but I just can’t help myself at this point. Hi, I’m Athena, 5’ 6.5", 154 pounds.

Opalcat, I liked your pics. Without thinking, I forwarded the URL of one of 'em to my boyfriend because my first thought was “Boy, D will think this is HOT!” He likes pictures of nice looking women sans clothing. It was only after sending the pic that I realized the irony of the whole thing - out of all four pics, the one that I sent to him was yup, you guessed it, the 200+ pound one. I know his tastes, and I can tell you, the skinny ones would have done nothing for him. Hope it’s OK I forwarded the URL, after all this is a public board.

Y’know, Mark, I understand some of what you’re saying. I’ve gained and lost weight, the most recent being an almost 20 pound loss. I get fat cuz I eat too much. Plain and simple. Yeah, some of my family are heavy (but some are slim, too) and genetics and all that… but when it comes right down to it, I ate too much. I’m very active, whether heavy or thin, but exercise alone doesn’t do it.

I know other heavy people who are heavy because, quite simply, they eat too much, too. I believe that they are doing themselves a disservice by denying that point - if they’d get a handle on their eating, they’d lose some weight.

There’s also other people who are heavy, and they eat too much, and they don’t really care that they’re heavy. They have a good body image and are happy with themselves. Great! No problems there!

And there’s the unfortunate group of individuals who are heavy because of a genuine health reason. They deserve sympathy and compassion (as do all of us for whatever reasons). The problem is, too many people of the first persuasion decide they’re in this group. They hide behind medical reasons that are nonexistant. That’s bad, in my opinion.

So be heavy if you want, and if you feel fine with your body, great! I won’t be telling you to lose weight because I think you should. If you’re unhappy and heavy, do some hard thinking about whether that medical reason is true or not… if it is, you have my sympathies. If it’s not, there’s many reputable weight loss strategies to try. Try 'em! Maybe you’ll find something that works! The important thing is - be happy. If you’re not happy now, change something so you are. Only you have the power to do this.

One last thing - Opalcat, my guy just responded to me - he loves the pic, and has assumed this is from some sort of nudey female web site where he can get more and is clamoring to get 'em. He’s gonna be disappointed! (once again, I hope it’s OK I forwarded that URL)

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I think you’re a fucking moron, that’s what I think. And I’ll lump the other idiots that have been posting their BS on here in that same genus.
When I went in the military 9 years ago, I was 6’2" 148 lbs. Waaayyy to thin. Left after 6 years at 189 lbs. I thought that was an ideal weight. My fiance thought I was too thin even then. Now I’m around 215-220. More than I want to weigh, but she thinks it’s just fine. So at what point would I have fit your ideal size?

I’ve been with all types of women…from skinny little things that I was afraid I’d break, to some BBW. So what?..I was attracted to them as people, not as objects.

I’m sure your SO will be so pleased if she gets pregnante that you’ll be there to make sure she watches her weight. Never mind about all the other changes she’ll be going thru, or concerns she may have. As long as she’ll be back to that size 4 in a month or so.

You all seem to be the types of guys that dress themselves out of the latest magazines…gotta look at what they say is cool, because I have no indviduality of my own. You say you’re disable now?..Well listen up gimp, unless you’d like to be called names in public, keep your damn putrid thoughts to yourself.

Kat, I hope you realize the above comment was just to make a point…k?

Ladies, I love ya all…(smooch on whatever part of your bady you’d like)

“When it comes to thought some people stop at nothing.”
-Anon

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Okay…we’re keeping Atrael too.

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JillGat – no, no flame. You posted a point of view in kindness and understanding. Actually, you and I have the same workout plan. Running one day, weights the next. I’m just a lot bigger than you. But I would never hurt you. Or anyone. I’m a big softy and I’d much rather give you a big bear hug! Even with the incredible amount of physical activity I do I still have a layer of fat on my body. It’s taken years to get where I am and I fight it every day. My top weight was 250, my lowest 120.

I think my past anorexia really did mess up my body. But I’m not whining, I’m sharing. It’s hard. Life is hard for everyone in some way. And as to if I eat too much: I eat around 2000 calories a day. That’s not too much. That’s the bare minimum for my weight and activity level. If I ate less than that I’d be too tiered to exercise. It’s a very fine line that, apparently, not many understand.

And Mark? Thanks for posting one of the biggest lies on the planet “I also know that if one is not careful, those same muscles quickly turn into fat if you stop.” Biologically, physiologically impossible. Muscle and fat are completely different. One doesn’t “turn into” the other. If you stop lifting weights your muscles might atrophy. They do not “turn into” fat. Just thought you might want the facts on that.

Atrael – thanks for the kiss. On my hand. Like a gentleman. :wink:

Best!
Byz

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I have to agree with a lot of what Jill has written.

Aside from physical conditions that prevent a person from losing weight, most anyone can lose weight if they truly want to do it. No one said that it is an easy thing to do, hell, I bust my ass with daily aerobic workouts and circuit weight training at the health club in our building at work during my lunch hour, karate and kick-boxing (the real thing - not Tae-Bo) classes twice a week, and I try to walk at least 10 miles each week. I watch what I eat and what I do eat, I eat in moderation. I have been doing these things for the last 6 years and I still have pounds to lose. Like Byz, I am pretty solid with muscle, but I am far from what you would call skinny. (BTW Byz, muscle weighs more than fat, so don’t be too obsessed with the scale.)

But I think the thing that Mark, et al, is missing in this debate is that NO ONE SHOULD HAVE TO LOSE WEIGHT BECAUSE YOU DON’T WANT TO LOOK AT THEM. Believe it or not, not all fat people want to lose weight. They are happy with themselves as they are, so why must you belittle them and make them feel ashamed?

I do think it is sad when a person is so overweight their health suffers, or someone is too fat to enjoy life, especially with their children or spouse. Yes, I do think that these people should lose weight, not because of their appearance, but for their health. Again, this is not something that me or you has any right to judge. It is between the person and their doctor.

Playing devil’s advocate (and I’ll probably get spanked), I will say that I although I think it is pretty shitty for a spouse to not accept the physical changes that happen to us all as we age, have babies, wrinkles, etc. We should love the person, not the body. However, I do not think that marriage is an excuse to let yourself fall to shit either. I know of both men and women who after a few years of marriage stop taking care of themselves. A wedding vow shouldn’t mean that you should stop having pride in your appearance or to look good for your partner.

If I fell in love and married a man who I was physically attracted to and after a couple of years of marriage he stops shaving or gains a massive amount of weight or maybe lets his hair grow long and stringy, to the point that I am no longer physically attracted to him, no matter how much I love him, I can’t guaranty that he will “do it for me” sexually. Physical attraction is something we don’t really have a lot of control over. Yes, you may still love that person very much, but love doesn’t always mean attraction.

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KITTEN
Please tell your pants it’s not polite to point.

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Atrael: That was a joke, paunchy. Lighten up. And do try to overcome your simian spelling and grammar - this is civilian life now, you’re allowed to be intelligent.

Several of you have been claiming that Mark and I must be “gross and disgusting” or must dress “out of the latest magazines” - yet you all cry about how people can be so mean and how you hate the name-calling because it hurts. How very ignorant and hypocritical.

Falcon: Please do.

Hell is Other People.