I thought I saw a Dharma logo tattoo on Zeke. It was kind of fuzzy, but in the scene where he captured Michael, there’s an odd tattoo like thing on the left side of his chest, half hidden by his shirt, that looks very much like the Dharma logo. Anyone else see this and have a comment? You have to look pretty fast, and it helps if you have a recording you can pause.
Also, it looks like next week Eko is involved in a Lockdown.
Here’s something else from the Hanso website.
Don’t believe “Bad Twin” by Gary Troup! Lies, all lies!
What kind of cross would be attracted to a magnet? Are there lots of lead and steel crosses out there? I figured most are gold or silver.
-Joe
So, is the connection between Hurley, Jack, Kate and Sawyer the fact that they’re all responsible for someone else’s death? Hurley-the people on the deck that collapsed, Kate-her father, Jack-his father (indirectly) and Sawyer-his father (?).
Then again, Eko is responsible for his brother’s death and he wasn’t included. And there was Ana Lucia also. Unless they didn’t want them and are only interested in the original Losties? Or something. Hmm, guess my half-baked theory doesn’t hold up to scrutiny.
Yeah, I don’t think it’ll hold up either.
At one point I was working on a “responsible for the deah of their father”. Kate torched hers, Jack sent his running off to Australia to get killed, Sawyer (I heavily speculated) caused his father’s suicide by slipping up and telling Daddy about Mommy’s ‘wrestling partner’.
But that leaves Hurley. Unless his dad was standing under the deck, well…
-Joe
I didn’t notice it the first time. Here’s a screengrab. Were you able to see any more detail?
It looks vaguely like a stylized wreath to me. Maybe something nautical/military?
Not to mention a record of Michael blowing away Libby and Ana Lucia. I bet that’ll rank high in the final voting on “Lostaways Bloodiest Home Videos.”
Another few suggestions:
Hurley and Jack were anti-hatch. Sawyer says that the place “creeps him out” and I don’t recall Kate ever doing hatch duty. Now obviously they are not unique in that way – there are a lot of people like Jin, Sun, Sayid that have had little use for the hatch.
Perhaps it is a divide and conquer strategy. The main muscle left behind is now Charlie, Sayid, Eko, Jin, and Locke. If they plan an assault on the camp while the 4 are away (for instance, taking Locke, Eko, or Sun), they may be able to induce permanent distrust and fractioning of the group.
Perhaps it is a move to isolate Locke, although Hurley is definitely the wild-card here. The incident in the forest obviously had Jack/Sawyer/(Kate) on one aspect and Locke agreeing with the truce. If Jack/Sawyer/Kate were taken out, the beach group led by Locke may become much more amenable to truce with the Others. Especially now that Eko is penitent.
Speaking of the watchers-station (pearl). Not only didn’t Eko or John mention to ANYONE what they found. They didn’t go look for the camera in their hatch. That’s the first thing I’d do. What’s it look like that it’s eluded people living there for the last 2-3 weeks. (not to mention Desmond)
That’s it! I couldn’t see any more detail, and I have a HiDef TV.
It doesn’t look round to me, though-- it looks like it has the straight edges of the Dharma logo, and something inside. Very hard to tell…
I’m not sure about the timeline of events, but is it possible they “did” see what Michael did? I don’t recall Eko’s or Locke’s reactions when they first heard about the murders or encountered Michael. However, Eko did tell Michael the story of the kid who was afraid the dog would be waiting in hell for him. Maybe they know what’s going on and are playing dumb.
I thought they left after The-Other-Formerly-Known-As-Henry escaped. Weren’t they supposed to be tracking him?
Sorry, my timeline is screwed up. I was thinking the Pearl Hatch and Michael’s murder were in the same episode. My bad.
Unless Locke and Eko found a recording of it.
I see a couple of easy possibilities:
1.) They didn’t know it was him AND he pulled a gun on them… they did afterall just ‘wing him’.
2.) Getting Walt was the higher priority at the time. Now they can have both.
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3.) Hi Opal!
4.) He wasn’t “good” then. He is now.
Yeah, during the scene where Jack asked Eko where they’d been, I was screaming at the TV “you wouldn’t want to tell him about the huge discovery the two of you made, now would you?” I think we’re all used to it by now, though. That’s par for the course on Lost.
I think Locke was heading toward the Swan station at the end. Based on the episode summary that’s been released for the season finale, it sounds like his next scheme is to let the timer run out.
Something else that came to mind this episode: several people have asked how the Others knew certain things, or why they risked shooting Sawyer on the raft if they wanted him. Seems the writers are doing an annoying thing that Hollywood often does: portraying mysterious bad guys as omnipotent and omiscient. In reality, yes, it doesn’t make sense that they would shoot Sawyer, but it’s as though we’re supposed to believe they’re so good at what they do, and have everything worked out so perfectly, that they know just how to injure Sawyer enough to escape without killing him. Another example of this is the confrontation in the jungle we saw a recap of in this episode. They have a sniper back in the woods who’s so good that they know he can get a shot off just in time that’s perfectly aimed to graze Sawyer and scare him enough to stop him from shooting, but not actually injure him? :rolleyes: Seems like in real life, the risk that Sawyer would get a shot off first would be too great. Or when Mr. Friendly told Sawyer to give up his second gun, the one he had hidden… are we to believe he was able to spot a hidden gun in the jungle by torchlight, or does he have some way of monitoring our people remotely? I wonder if we’re eventually going to learn that these Others do indeed have some kind of superpowers, or if this is all just poetic license.
Of course, it’s pretty clear now that Henry was indeed captured by accident, so I guess they’re not totally invincible.
Speaking of the Others, is anyone else being driven crazy by the fact that we’re still not really learning anything about them? I don’t seem to hear other people talking about this much, but the number one, burning question in my mind is, who the hell ARE these people and what on earth are they up to?
Yeah, Charlie is the dumbest guy on the island. As someone pointed out on another forum, though, it looks like he’s being redeemed… could this mean curtains for him? 
BTW, does anyone have a link to next episode’s preview in AVI or MPG? I didn’t catch it and the only one I’ve found is in .rm format, which crashes my computer.
Would you kill two random people because the kidnappers told you so?
The reason you don’t give in to terrorists or kidnapper demands is because you have no reason to trust that they will actually fullfill their end of the bargain.
It’s quite obvious that Michael went off the deep end quite some time ago with his WAAAALLLT!! bullshit and running off by himself like a lunatic. A rational person would have agreed to the Other’s demands and then run back to camp to get the ex-cop, the Iraqi commando, the African warlord, the Asian mafia henchman, the weird old guy who’s good with knives and a few of the petty criminals for help.
Here’s a detail/blow-up. It seems to me that it’s definitely not an octagon, like the Dharma Initiative logo – I see an ornate irregular border, which suggests to me a naval crest or some similar heraldic device.
OK, I agree it’s not a Dharma logo. It would’ve been cool if it had been, though! 
Does anyone have a screen capture of the “Rock with a hole in it”? It looked kind of suspicious to me-- more like the ruin of a old building than a rock.
