the flashforward got me good. didn’t see it coming at all. When Kate walked up I thought “Wow, they did know each other before the crash!” d’oh
Sawyer and Jin are the men!
I loved when Jack said he would see everyone rescued, then come back and hunt down Tom.
Any scene with Charlie this ep. was great. What a way to end your run on a show.
When the “Lost” graphic came up at the end, I turned to my wife and said “those fuckers”. It was a truly good ending to a season, and I can’t wait for next year!
For much of the season, I’ve kind of had the impression that Tom (“Mr. Friendly”) was being set up by the writers to become one of the good guys, or at least, less of a bad guy.
But this episode put the kibosh on that kind of thinking, of course.
Does anyone know if there’s a backstory to this? Did the actor want to leave the show or anything? Or was I just totally misreading the writer’s intentions in the first place?
I don’t think that’s really fair; he did only have a handgun after all. At least he didn’t tell the Others EVERYTHING. Seriously, Bernard, if you’d have shut up half way through, that could have been fine, but did you have to bare your very soul?
Hmph. I like how present Kate looks. More natural, less makeup – me like.
One would think that after grabbing away the gun from the girl, Charlie or Desmond would put a few more bullets into Mikhail, just to be sure. After all, Desmond only got him with a small harpoon bolt or something initially – it wasn’t very big.
Wasn’t the announcement that they would do 3 more seasons, at 16 episodes per season? For a grand total of 48 more. (Although depending on how they number them, one might count 15 if they have a 2-hour finale being counted as one).
Has anybody ever seen Mikhail and/or Locke under the light of the full moon? I’m just sayin… could explain a few things. Bloody pirates!
Thinking about Naomi, and who her people really are… Clearly, she knew about Desmond being on the island, and she had the picture of him and Penny. Yet she also lied about being sent by Penny. Now, I don’t know what Penny’s been doing since she got the phone call at the end of season 2 – I mean, when Charlie’s button pushing ended up contacting her, she didn’t seem busy searching. (“Oh, hi – I’m Penny. I’m just hanging out watching the Simpsons season finale. Who are you?”)
Because of what Naomi knows, though – I’d say she and her ship were sent by Penny’s father and the Widmore foundation. I think Daddy sent them to find the island for some other purpose of his own, but he certainly has no love for Desmond, so he would not tell Penny what he’s up to. Just like when he intercepted all Desmond’s letters to Penny from prison, and he never allowed them to be delivered to her. And I think Daddy Widmore’s intentions regarding the island are probably not good.
It was a great episode, and I agree with most of the posts. Charlie’s death bugged me too, and it seems like it would’ve been easy to fix: put the window in the ceiling rather than the wall, and maybe have an automatic containment system close the door immediately when the grenade goes off, rather than Charlie just closing it. In any case it was a great final episode for Charlie (and Dominic as well).
I suppose this ep could still be a flashback from the perspective of FutureJack. The first scene shows him, and then he flashes back to the island. I’m trying to remember; don’t they usually start episodes in the present, and then flash back?
Not always. Ben’s episode started with his flashback. It’s possible the island was the flashback part this time, but usually flashbacks are centered on a particular character, while the island scenes covered Jack’s party, Sayid’s party, and Charlie and Desmond.
Widmore sponsored the race around the world that Desmond joined. It’s quite possible he was monitoring Desmond’s boat.
Yeah, that made for a good follow-up to last season’s “You and me aint done, Zeke…”
They’d almost been making Tom into a sympathetic character as this season progressed – although I think his line in this one about “We should have killed them instead of putting three bullets in the sand”, regarding the tied-up prisoners, helps move him back further from our sympathies again.
No, that was definitely a flashback. The marshall (in another flashback) gives a summary of that story to an airport security guy before he and Kate board flight 815 – back in the season 1 finale. The story of how she robbed the bank to get to the safe deposit box with the airplane.
Charlie was great in this episode – except for his questionable decision to lock himself inside that room. But he realized that whatever the ladies threatened him with or how ever much they beat him up, Desmond had still seen him shutting off the jamming signal, so he’d get there eventually. It made him fearless, so he was a very amusing captive. “Tell Ben I said Hi” indeed. hee!
I think the Jack flashforward was actually present day. Wouldn’t that make the whole rest of the episode a flashback? Now that they’ve shown us the “future” every island scene is now a flashback. Does that make any sense?
I don’t doubt that, but that’s just one way in which The Island does look after itself. I don’t think anyone understands The Island, and that’s the whole point.
I still think it’s Michael in the coffin. The reference to New York makes it even more likely. And it makes sense that no one would want to go to his funeral, especially Kate, since he betrayed them all and was the reason Kate ended up in the bear cage for 2 weeks (or however long it was).
And I also think Jack’s dad is really dead. That’s what made the other doctor especially suspicious-- he looked like he was about to say “Your father is dead, Jack”.
Have we ever seen Ben barefoot? How many toes does he have?
Not always – they’ve started a few episodes with a flashback scene. For example, the last Hurley flashback episode (with Cheech as his father) started with the flashback.
However, it appears that one big clue this episode is that the “flashbacks” were not accompanied by the Whooooooooosh sound effect, going from the present character’s face into flashback mode.
Loved it! Cheered when Hurley & his microbus came to the rescue! Loved Sawyer!
I thought the Charlie death scenewas believable - more believable than zombie Mikhail anyway - in that he panicked and did what he thought was best for Desmond, Claire, etc.
I still hate Locke. If he, “Walt”, Ben, etc. think it’s so important to keep other people away from the island then they should have SAID WHY! yeah, yeah, I know that wouldn’t work dramatically in terms of the series. But if you’re saying “Jack don’t contact the boat” you could at least give some sort of lame reason why not. One that’s better than “we’re the good guys”.
