[twilight zone music] Is there any way the polar bear that they found in the ground is the same polar bear Sawyer shot in the first episode? [/twilight zone music]
Wouldn’t they have noticed the Dharma collar?
Charlotte had to dig down to get to it, and the archeologist guy was griping at her the whole time. Or maybe you meant the Losties would have noticed. I thought the same thing. Probably a different bear. More important to me is how the heck she knew to look for the collar.
My hunch is that Ben told her it was there?
Good episode. I like Daniel Faraday. It’s nice to have someone on the island who is such a bad liar.
I don’t think so. She didn’t expect Ben to know who she was.
New people. I don’t want to have to get to know new people. Can we just wrap up one mystery before dumping others on? Or is it more of a “Um, we don’t know what do to with this storyline anymore, so let’s throw a whole bunch of new shit into the show and hope the viewers forget about this storyline.”
Dammit.
My take is that this was not the first Dharma related oddity that CS had come across. The women she was with asks her in how many languages does she have to hear about the crash, suggesting they’ve been traveling far over the last several days. And she barely glances at the bones to determine it’s a polar bear (not your first assumption in a desert) so it’s probably not the first polar bear she’s come across in an odd place.
So let’s say CS is trying to learn more about the Dharma Initiative, and finally contacts someone from Dharma. Much like the pilot, who contacts Oceanic. Lends credence to the Dharma/Oceanic tie-in (Oceanic is owned by Dharma, probably, which is possibly run by Old Man Widmore). The two are then “recruited” by Dharma to find the island. How Faraday and Miles were drawn into it remains to be seen.
This also makes me think that **Monstre ** is right about Ben and the Others faking the crash to keep the island secret. It’s consistent with everything Ben has done to keep them on the island.
Having said that, there are two people whom Ben has *apparently * allowed to leave the island…Michael and Shorter Non-Ghost Walt. So where are they? Are they two of the Oceanic 6?
I’m wondering if the polar bear skeleton may relate to the two human skeletons the Losties found way back in the first or second episode.
Second episode - more of the same -
Problem for me is that they keep deepening the mystery - so much so that I can’t conceive of a wrap up that will make any sense at all… yet the individual episodes are ‘overall’ enjoyable.
“I’ll tell you why we’re here” - right after the commercail and 5 other interuptions.
oh well, with no competition for the timeslot (currently) it’s watchable.
Can I second the question on where was Fisher Stevens?
“We’re here for Benjamin Linus” is an interesting line. One could read it several different ways:
We’re here to rescue him because he’s valuable.
We’re here to kill him.
We’re here to take him prisoner because he’s dangerous but also has knowledge that we need.
We’re here to join forces with him.
But, given Miles’ tone, I’d say they’re not exactly his fans. And if Ben is telling the truth and has a man on their boat, he’s already got plans in motion to kill every one of them.
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I thought it was another very enjoyable episode - bring on the mysteries, I say! I have no idea where the story is going and I love it.
Although sometimes telling one lie badly is the best way to obscure the existence of a different truth.
We now have a definite end date for this series. The producers have had time to get all the story lines sorted and then start converging on some kind to satisfactory ending. I say sit back, relax and enjoy the ride from now on.
I’ve definitely heard this complaint before - from my own wife, in fact - and you’re certainly entitled to feel this way, but what I don’t quite understand is: how, exactly, would this play out?
I mean, if, in next week’s episode, they revealed the identity of all of the Oceanic Six, the identity of the person in the coffin, the true motivation of the freighter’s crew, the nature of the black smoke monster, the identity and nature of Jacob, the reason for the Island’s evident healing powers, the romantic future of Kate and Juliet vis a vis Sawyer and Jack, and all the other mysteries, thus resolving the tension…
And then said, tune in next week, on an all-new Lost, where we will introduce a bunch of completely new characters and storylines…
How many people would actually tune in?
You have to introduce new questions before you answer the old ones, because if you don’t, once the old questions get answered, the story’s momentum comes to a crashing halt. The mystery of the boat people has to be introduced as the mystery of the Others becomes elucidated, so that there’s a reason to keep watching.
Charlotte’s scene with the polar bear skeleton was a flash-forward. She had already experienced everything on the island.
Some people’s comments are implying that the chopper pilot and Faraday viewing the television scenes of the aircraft compelled them to join the rescue team.
I think that’s backwards - those were flash-forwards as well. They had already been on the island when those scenes occurred.
I got the opposite impression, and I can’t see where you’re getting this idea? Did I miss something?
All the characters we saw seemed to have special knowledge that they had already acquired in the flash forwards.
When Faraday was watching the TV Footage, the woman with him asked, “why are you crying”. He said, “I don’t know” which to me implied something had previously happened to him on the island to cause him to cry.
When Miles was in the grandson’s bedroom, he knew there was something in the room by saying, “show me where it is”. I assume it’s through something he learned on the island.
CS Lewis obviously already knew about the polar bears and Dharma through the island.
We didn’t have any flashbacks in the first episode this season, and I believe that pattern will continue for the rest of the season. Obviously this isn’t hard evidence, but I think everything was post-island.
Interesting theory. Doesn’t really work for the pilot guy, does it though? It seemed like he only became aware of the fact that that wasn’t really Oceanic 816 when he noticed the corpse was missing a wedding ring. If this was really after the events, he would have known right away. And he probably would have known better than to call about it. 