Mad-Men: 6.03 "The Collaborators" (open spoilers)

It’s 1968, abortion is still illegal, and both women come from similiar pre-Vatican II Catholic backgrounds. It would be weirder if Mrs Rosen didn’t moralize.

Pete got into a fight on the train with the husband of the woman he was having an affair with and told Trudy he fell asleep at the wheel (because he’s so tired from all the commuting) and crashed the car.

I don’t understand why it’s a betrayal. She’s going after ketchup, not beans. Ketchup is not in play for SCDP.

They’re not going to go just after ketchup. They’re going to go after Heinz in general.

Remember Don’s pitch in the episode in “Fees & Commissions” (aka Lane commits suicide"). Chaough would have agreed with him. He doesn’t want half of any business’s ad wallet; he wants all of it. It’s the only way to do his job.

And Peggy perceives what she’ll be doing as a betrayal because, if it becomes known that what’s-his-name’s loose lips resulted in SCDP losing a major account, he’ll get canned.

It’s a betrayal because she told her boss something Stan told her in confidence, but I agree with Disheavel. I don’t think Stan really expected her to keep that to herself and not act on it.

At the risk of invoking the “If you remember it, it worked!” ad debate, if my take-away was “No reason to watch all the rest 'cause there’s not much different about them” then they shouldn’t be smiling. In shorter words, I didn’t come away any more interested in AMC’s other shows.

Perhaps. Without arguing the point, I’ll just say that it sucked for Megan.

So long as they don’t use the knowledge to also try and steal Baked Beans, I’m not sure why it is bad to use the knowledge to try and get ketchup since the whole point of the story is that DCSP is not actually in the running to get ketchup. Learning that Heinz is in the market for a new ketchup agency and acting on that does nothing to hurt the other agency.

Of course, to the extent that Peggy is wrong to use the information, Stan was more wrong to share it.

Much better than the season opener. Pete’s predicament was well done. My wife asked “why does his hair look weird?”. Because he’s trying to be hip with the sideburns. Doesn’t work well with a receding hairline and dopey 50’s hairdo.

Did anyone else find it interesting that Don rationalized staying with Beans instead of going after Ketchup by saying “sometimes you gotta dance with the one that brought you”? It’s basically the antithesis of the way he leads his life; always going after the next big thing.

RE: Megan blaming Hawaii’s time zone on her birth control pill lapse: they don’t have days in Hawaii? How does that work?

She may have forgotten because she was jet lagged and missed a day of the pill. Even not taking the pill at the same time every day can be enough to reduce effectiveness.

If you’re supposed to take them 24 hours apart but bedtime is now 27 hours (or more) from the last time you took them, it could be a problem. Or if you’re high and your husband is John Hamm in a swimsuit, you just plain forget :slight_smile:

Hawaii and NY are six hours apart so just saying “Six o’clock, pill time” would put you a quarter day off schedule. That’s being generous and assuming she was watching the clock that closely.

If nothing else, AMC should be emphasizing that the acting by the zombies on Walking Dead is much better than January Jones on Mad Men. Product differentiation is good.

Dopers under the age of 55 won’t remember what a big deal birth control pills were when they first came out.

From Wikipedia:

Pretty inconceivable [sic] that in many states a married woman couldn’t get birth control pills and an unmarried women couldn’t get them even with a doctor’s prescription until 1972. Can you 20-30-somethings even wrap your brain around that? I find it shocking today and I lived through it. :smack: I was married the first time in 1972 and did get on the pill right away.

And the early BC pills had high doses of hormones and the formulations were different from today’s pills. Maybe a medical person can chime in with more specific info.

Yeah, even in states that didn’t ban contraception for unmarried women it could be hard for single women to find a doctor willing to proscribe them. This was more a problem in small towns than NYC (if only because big cities had more doctors to choose from). Remember how in the pilot Joan made a point of sending the new hires to Dr Emerson (who also does abortions) to get birth control? BTW the pill actually became available in 1957 for treatment of menstral disorders. Emerson was likely one of the docs willing to prescribe in for off-label use (which is how the pill was available in countries like Canada or Ireland before they legalized contraception).

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Actually, I think it was easy to find physicians to PROscribe the pill. PREscribing was another story.

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I wish I had a screen cap to share, but…did anyone else notice…

When Don was telling the Jaguar execs about how to run the new ad campaign, there was an abstract painting behind his left shoulder. One of the figures looked just like an upside down pistol, with the barrel aimed at his head. It had the basic gun “L” shape, and even had a trigger guard (or whatever that ring of metal is).

I want a slice of that coffee cake.

And I want the Campbells’ sofa.

I want the not-quite-a-suit that Peggy’s secretary was wearing.