Sex shouldn't be so hard to get

This time of year lot of people like to go on ice cream dates just in case you didn’t know.

That;s all dating seems to be, pretending to be someone else until you have sex.:smack:

Really if sex is all you are interested in, why not go to a professional?

I;m saying that most men pretend to be someone else until he gets in her panties. I have never been good at being fake but lots of my friends are.

Is sex still hard to get with apps like Tinder? Assuming you aren’t completely unfortunate, doesn’t it just become a simple matter of supply and demand?
Are you willing to have sex with any random person off the street? If no, then why would you expect anyone else would be?
Can you honestly blame women for wanting to get with a guy who has some combination of good looks, physical fitness, financial or professional success, interesting interests or hobbies and good communication skills?

In most places it’s illegal.

It’s more dangerous.

Some guys feel “paying for it” is beneath them.

Ah, but milk is milk is milk. Sausages vary from bangers to wurst…

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Just as an aside, Tinder really is not a “hook up” app anymore. As its grown in popularity, it has evolved into much more of a traditional dating app.

It’s not hard to get.
[sub]Oh, you’re probably talking about sex with someone else.[/sub]

“Sex is easy if you’re a woman” is a false statement.

It is not a rough generality. It is a specific statement that says all women can have all sex at any time. This is factually incorrect.

This factually incorrect statement dismisses the problems women face in finding sex and love and it generates resentment among men because it perpetuates the idea that women have it easy.

It is factually incorrect to say that all women have problems finding sex and love, or that all men resent women.

Regards,
Shodan

Attractive women can get sex easily (as long as they do not have illnesses that cause major social inhibitions like social anxiety, autism, etc). However women in general do not desire no strings attached sex the way men do (in general). But yes if a woman isn’t conventionally attractive or she has social inhibitions (anxiety, depression, autism) then she will have a harder time.

My point was more that when it comes to what the genders find attractive, there is a decent level of consistency from individual to individual. Women are going to find Chris Hemsworth more attractive than a bankrupt morbidly obese social pariah for a reason, because there are general traits people look for. At the same time, men are going to find a 19 year old with a perfect body and perfect face more attractive than a 57 year old with bad skin, crooked teeth and obesity. People like to say ‘we are all individuals’, but we are all individuals within the same species (homo sapiens) that share the same evolutionary history and share 99.9% of our DNA.

Yes, other than asking him about his car. I agree, career goals is a fine conversation topic. But that is like a guy asking a woman whose photo he has never seen about her diet and exercise routine. He could be making sincere conversation about her health, or he could be gauging her appearance. It isn’t the same thing. These issues are hard to tread because there is a fine line between gauging if someone is a good partner, making genuine conversation vs feeling treated like an object.

The question about the car is what made me think they were asking about his income.

And then the guys wonder why they don’t come back for more, I suppose? :rolleyes: Phoniness is NOT attractive on any level. I guess it’s for the best that they show their true colors early, and not wait until they get married, or worse, have kids.

One of those morbid obesity shows on the Discover Channel profiled a guy who weighed 800 pounds and was on a ventilator - and one night, the nurses caught him with 3 girls in his room. :eek: I wondered if he ordered them the way he was ordering delivery pizza, and how he paid for it. :confused:

There’s a woman who posts on another board who is an attorney and no longer in the dating pool (long story), and she’s always talking about how she goes out with her younger female co-workers, and the instant the men they meet find out she’s a lawyer, he wants nothing more to do with her. That’s especially true if he’s a lawyer himself, although if you think about it, maybe they don’t want to marry another lawyer because they want to have a life unrelated to what goes on in the office? She, OTOH, thinks it’s because the guys don’t want a highly educated, highly paid woman, and that’s always possible, but really, why would an educated woman want a man who doesn’t want to be with her? Or any other woman, for that matter?

I think I see the problem here.

I think you should try. After all, it doesn’t appear you really want to know a woman as a person you wish to date, and it seems you aren’t doing too well just being yourself. Hang in there, I’m sure sexy times are a coming!

When I was in college the first thing women asked at mixers was “what is your major?” That was not a potential salary inquiry, it was an easy topic of conversation.
You don’t have to give her a job description - just a general idea of your field with maybe something interesting about it. Starting with “my job sucks” is not likely to get you either a date or a new job.

I didn’t make either of those statements. I did not say that all women have problems or that all men resent women.

I said that the statement, “Sex is easy if you’re a woman” dismisses the problems of women who have trouble finding sex and relationships. In fairness, I admit that I left out the word “of” in my previous post.

My brain does that sometimes - it just doesn’t send a work order to my fingers for all the words in my head when I’m typing and it doesn’t always bother to alert me when it cuts a few corners. It’s why I end up editing so many of my posts. My brain doesn’t point out the typo until I’m re-reading it later.

Anyway, I didn’t mean to say that all women have problems finding love, but rather that the statement, “Sex is easy if you’re a woman”, dismisses the problems of those who do. It papers over the problems of some women to tell an untrue narrative where all women are unfairly getting lots of sex while men have to work at it.

That’s the resentment part. And I didn’t say that all men are resentful, I said “Sex is easy if you’re a woman” is a statement that encourages resentment. I know that not all men fall for it.

Right - and that’s exactly the way it works for men, too. Attractive men can get sex easily too, provided that they’re not nut jobs.

Saying that attractive women and men can get sex easier than unattractive women or men is a much different statement than insisting that all women can get sex easily.

This is all irrelevant to what I’m talking about, which is the fact that “Sex is easy if you’re a woman” is an untrue statement.

Yes, generally speaking, everyone likes young, fit, attractive people. It’s as useful a bit of info as saying, generally speaking, everyone prefers that their mate has two working eyes.

But it’s a far different thing to say, like the OP, that no one likes men who aren’t young fit or attractive, rich and charming (or whatever the list was), or that everyone will sleep with a woman, even if she’s not young fit and attractive.

Even if a generalization is correct, it doesn’t mean you can apply that genrealization as a universal truth to individuals. Once you do, it’s trivially easy to point to examples where the generalization is untrue.

Under what set of bizarre and atypical circumstances would a guy be talking to a prospective dating partner without any idea what she looks like? Even blind dates don’t work like that; a guy can always get insight into how big, small, tall, cute, curvy a woman is before he invests significant attention in her. That’s the one plus to be visually minded.

Never in my life have I been asked “what do you drive?” I’ve dated quite a bit too, most of it internet-based.

ETA: I must make one caveat to my statement. I have been asked what I drove but it was in the context of my disability.