From Probst’s blog, it does sound like there will be a tribal council next week. So, whomever falls in the challenge, they either don’t get sent out or they continue with the voting out.
I’ve read this several times and still don’t get it. Why would it be noteworthy that they have a tribal council next week? They have one every week.
In looking at spoilers, without naming names, someone is injured enough to possibly leave the game. Sometimes, that means no tribal.
Well, when Russell(not Hantz) got injured last year, they had no council.
I don’t personally mind, but let’s remember to spoilerize any info about future episodes.
notice how both challenges didn’t require brute force. And who won both these challenges? yea, the villains. That’s why last week’s challenge was not fair.
The Villains are, what? 5 and 1? 6 and 2? in the challenges? It doesn’t seem to me worth complaining about how fair one challenge was when the Villains are pretty much creaming the Heroes.
only reason i complain is that Randy got the short end of the stick. If the challenges were not based on brute force, he’d still be in the game.
The producers can alter the momentum of the game by just making a challenge more physical in nature and have heroes win so they can even up the numbers. Having the teams so obviously stacked physically can make things look bad in terms of fairness. I prefer not having pure physical challenges because I already know the outcome of the challenge. Villains don’t run away with the “fairer” challenges like how the pillow fight was so obviously slanted for the Heroes to win.
hopefully this week’s injury is what they’re showing on the newer commercials because I’d rather see James go down than a villain. Can’t wait to see the power move Russell is planning against Boston Rob too. The commercials however always disappoint in terms of what actually happens.
Your concept of fairness is odd. This season is evidence that the non-physical challenges are unfair against the Heroes. As soon as they introduce a puzzle, the outcome is every bit as certain as you felt the pillowfighting challenge was, only it goes the other way.
Why is one unfairness okay but the other is not? Is physical exertion/fitness/ability really that distasteful?
EDIT: Anything that gives Randy the short end of the stick in challenges is good. Which works because everything in challenges gives Randy the short end of the stick. That guy is more useless than Courtney, who is at least small and is good for stacking on top of a pyramid or something.
Correct me here, please, because I really don’t recall the circumstances: wasn’t Randy was voted out of Villains the very first time the Villains went to TC? So Randy was in the game, what?, 9-12 days, or something like that, and managed to be on the short stick of a winning tribe. How is this the producer’s fault?
brain power fairness isn’t as blatant advantage than actual muscle. Both teams have brains and can use them, one team has MORE muscle and that’s the difference. Heroes may have a lower IQ or are slightly retarded because they can’t do the puzzles in a timely manner but that’s no advantage. It’s just that they’re dumb to not have a clue in how to do them.
Tell me would the challenges be fair if there were no puzzles period? I would say the challenge would be unfair if it was a pure puzzle challenge. But there are none of those. Fairness for the villains in that Pillow fight was none.
because they used a full physical challenge to even up the tribes a little. If they used a challenge other than the pillow fight the villains might be a full tribe as they came in. Sadly they need to balance it out so villains don’t run away with a full tribe versus a handful of heroes.
But at some point they would have gone to tribal. It was inevitable. And Randy would (very likely) have been gone.
I think I understand your argument, but it seems to me a very slender reed to hang this on the producers.
inevitable yes, but not created by the producers with the pillow fight.
He might’ve changed his status in the tribe if there was more time for him perhaps. And the endless theorizing can happen. I’m just saying that pillow fight last week was one of the WORST possible challenge that the powers that be can use.
I’ll say it again, if it was a pure puzzle challenge I would be calling unfair for the Heroes. But they probably would never do this because it’ll keep the Villains strong. Only challenges we’ll see are the ones with mix of brain and muscle or pure muscle so the Heroes can catch up on evening up the numbers.
We’ll see what happens in the future, but when I state that the pillow fight was not fair, and you guys somehow think it was… I’m baffled.
I’m just using the producers as a scapegoat for one of the worst challenges (pillow fight). It might be my inner conspiracy theorist in me. For all I know they have the challenges preplanned in order before they even choose the teams and players. They just need to use challenges not so skewed for single physical prowess. Challenges should include teamwork when tribal immunity is involved. Best team should win, not best team that can beat the other in one on one combat.
Okay, first off: physical competitions are by definition fair. There can be no disputing this. Otherwise there could be no sports. And there are very many sports.
The ONLY way physical competitions can be characterized as unfair is if one side gets a non-human mechanical advantage. Since this is not the case, cries of unfairness ring hollow.
To be honest, it’s sounding like sour grapes due to bad memories from gym class.
I’m by no means a fat slouch. I used to be pretty decent in team sports and yes I understand what your take is on the fairness about physical challenges. However, when someone picks the teams beforehand and there is an obvious advantage in one team over the other in strength, and then using a challenge that pretty much measures strength, then that someone is manipulating the outcome.
That someone in this instance is the powers that be. They chose the teams. It’s as if the Knicks and Lakers were managed by the same General Manager. They put all the tall players in one team and the short in the other. And then say they need to win a game by having the most shot blocks. The goal of the game is skewed for the tall guys.
Not if the tall guys are on the Knicks, who suck by definition. heh.
Are you saying that Tyson, Boston Rob, Coach and Russell are all guaranteed to lose a straight-up physical contest against any and all men on the heroes tribe?
pretty much, muscle and weight wise, they’re way out of their league.
Boston Rob, round in the middle, strong competitor not that muscular but was a construction worker. Best in strength imo
Coach is second, soccer isn’t a strength sport. Athletic yes, strong middle of the pack
Tyson, scrawny and thin, perhaps lower to middle of strength meter
Russel, strong, low gravity, really short, probably doesn’t weigh too much.
Heroes we have
Colby, looks pretty strong to me, he’s older though
James by far would cream all in physicality
JT farm boy, no slouch,
Tom ex-firefighter strong but old.
Weight wise looks like heroes are bigger here.
even if the villains can get the best match ups they still wouldn’t have a real advantage. Say heroes have to tell villains to who is going up.
James : villains would choose weakest link so they know they’ll lose. Tyson
Colby: looks like Boston Rob would get the call, even match up. coin toss imo
Tom: Tyson, seeing that he’s older and big. Tyson should lose this in pure strength
JT: Russel willl get the call since he’s more even with JT than he would be with Tom. JT is shorter, i think.
change the Tom: part with Coach and not Tyson.
and that’s not including broken toe Rupert who isn’t a weakling. I’d match him evenly with Russell.