24: Season 5: Episode 15 (9:00pm - 10:00pm) - OPEN SPOILERS

[Monstre]

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So last week Jack tracked down Collette, a hot Mandy-wannabe, but clearly not Mandy -- as she got caught just an hour from her intro to the show. She has a ways to go before she is Mandy quality. She'd better go practice on an airliner or two first...

And she claimed that her info came from Audrey. So which conclusion will Jack jump to first? That Audrey may have been framed, like he was this morning? Or will he expose the wires from a lamp cord and tell her to take off her shirt?

Meanwhile, I want to know what Desmond.. erm... Stoller... is going to be doing for revenge. I'm guessing it will come down to something later in the day where Jack desperately needs Stoller's help or information on something. We'll see.

Tune in tonight, when you'll hear President Logan say...
"What should I do, Mike? What should I do, Martha? What should I do, cleaning lady?"
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24, Season 5, Episode 15
9:00 PM - 10:00 PM

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[Monstre]

And here we go...!

How long does everybody think Wayne will survive? Through this episode?

[athelas]

My guess is that Audrey is innocent, if only because they can't kill off *that* many core characters.

[Wolfian]

Ooooh, role playing.

PUT ON THE FRENCH MAID'S OUTFIT OR DOZENS OF DISHES WILL GO UNCLEAN!!!

[Monstre]

Yep -- distribution center for natural gas utilities, I presume...

Little gas worker needs to realize they are all toast anyways. Don't follow the evil guy's orders!

[bouv]

The first thing that went through my mind when I saw Collette in the holding room:

(In Brian from Family Guy's voice)

"Hey, did you bring enough breasts for the rest of us?"

Nice to see Aaron in action a little bit, too bad he didn't get to off anyone.

[Hey, It's That Guy!]

Originally Posted by bouv

Nice to see Aaron in action a little bit, too bad he didn't get to off anyone.

The night's not over yet!

[MrFantsyPants]

No why the hell doesn't Aaron get right on the radio, call it it when he was being shot at?

[bouv]

Originally Posted by MrFantsyPants

No why the hell doesn't Aaron get right on the radio, call it it when he was being shot at?

Well, for one, he already said that he's trying to keep his meeting with Wayne a secret, and obviously there is already a leak somewhere, so he can't risk it.

[Oslo Ostragoth]

Jack slams Audrey up against the wall!
Jack assaults multiple federal agents!
Jack gets tasered!
Chloe is no longer the creepiest female CTU employee!

[bouv]

Originally Posted by Oslo Ostragoth

Chloe is no longer the creepiest female CTU employee!

You reminded me. I liked the new (EXTREMELY cute) woman, until she turned out to be a psycho. So how will Ms. YoutouchmeontheshoulderafterIdoagoodjobdoingsomethinginacongrajulatorymannerandIscreamsexualharrasem ent deal with this? File charges against Bill?

Which reminds me of something else, how likely is it that the PSI rating of an average natural gas line is high enough to destroy nerve gas?

[Monstre]

Hey, did you see the way he brushed my shoulder? That's not right...

(That was hilarious...)


And dayum! We haven't had a really intense episode ending like that in a long time -- they also didn't warn us the hour was almost up with the usual split-screen shots right before the end. I'd say this ending rivals the one from season 2, episode 8 (when the small airplane Jack was in -- along with Nina -- was hit with a surface to air missile).

[StarvingButStrong]

I know how the next episode will start:

Close up on the burning cop car, flaming debris on top and all around it. Suddenly the door slams open and Jack staggers out from the driver's seat. His hair is on fire, his clothes are on fire, the skin of his face is blistering and charring. Black Jack runs up, stops, horrified. He barely breathes, "Jack...."

Jack staggers towards him, still burning. But, strangely, his gait is getting firmer, steadier. The flesh is starting to drip off his face, revealing the gleam of silvery metal. Step by step he comes, his flesh burning and peeling away, revealing the flawless metal skeleton of the robot underneath....




Well, think about it: How else could one man have survived all he's been through.


















Besides, it explains why the guy never has to use the bathroom.

[RikWriter]

Best line of the night...perhaps of the season:
"And now I'm...upset."

[Slacker]

About as likely as a city being in full military lockdown, but high probability targets like gas distribution centers are manned by a single guard who doesn't blink when someone with an accent drives up and says "We haf deleeveery foer yoo." This is the part of the show where you have to turn off the ol' brain quite a bit.

Still good though.

[Omniscient]

Loved this episode. Couple favorite items:

Jack being "upset" and Collete folding like a cheap lawn chair at the thought.

Aaron getting to be cool and firing the assault weapon. Good times for everyone.

The Mission Impossible-esque scene when Bierko's team breached the distriibution center. Loved the style and music going along with it. Not typical 24 themed stuff and it was really working for me.

Jack has actually assaulted more friendlies than bad guys this season. This episode alone he killed like 3 bad guys, but assaulted at least 3 CTU employees a Federal Marshall and Audrey.

Never would have expected gas-company-geek to actually survive! Bierko's a softie compared to Marwan.

This was the first episode where I didn't despise Chloe. The stand-off with the slimy Homeland Security dude was priceless as was her expression when sexual harrasment chick when all psycho on Buchannon. She was even somewhat tactful with Jack about Audrey's affair with WAAAAAALT.

Where the hell did Wayne get a hold of an assault rifle? Why the hell did the Henderson's henchmen had a rocket launcher handy, and how the hell does that go unnoticed just outside the POTUS' compound?

SPOILER:

I knew that the FLOTUS's assistant was not on the up and up. The whole getting suckered by Walt scene was too easy. She's still hot though.

Speaking of hot, Collette's cleavage was breathtaking. A Mandy-Collette threesome will be invading my dreams tonite for sure.

[Troy McClure SF]

So, Curtis is already known as Black Bauer... have we yet established that Chloe is Hack Bauer? Because we really should.

[JThunder]

"Hack Bauer." That's great.

BTW, this is the sexiest that Chloe has ever been since the last time she held an assault weapon.

[bouv]

Originally Posted by Omniscient

Where the hell did Wayne get a hold of an assault rifle? Why the hell did the Henderson's henchmen had a rocket launcher handy, and how the hell does that go unnoticed just outside the POTUS' compound?

I assume he somehow subdued one of the guys following him and stole it. As for how they got in there, my guess is they are US military who are just following orders from someone like/associated with Walt in the US government.

[Troy McClure SF]

Originally Posted by Omniscient

SPOILER:

I knew that the FLOTUS's assistant was not on the up and up. The whole getting suckered by Walt scene was too easy. She's still hot though.

Did I miss something? I don't remember seeing any of the POTUS' circle besides Aaron.

[Omniscient]

Originally Posted by Troy McClure SF

Did I miss something? I don't remember seeing any of the POTUS' circle besides Aaron.

I was in the preview for next weeks show.

[Troy McClure SF]

Boo hiss!

[Excalibre]

Originally Posted by Omniscient

I was in the preview for next weeks show.

You're supposed to spoiler-box those.

[John Mace]

I love the way Chloe was able to trace all of Audrey's movements over 18 months in about 2 minutes-- including e-mailing pictures to a hotel desk clerk.

Why didn't they increase the pressure in the gas lines right away to make the gas inert? Didn't little miss chemistry major remember that?

Maybe Collette has the plans to the power plant tattooed all over her body. We need to find out if she's been watching Prison Break (which now has Ensign Ro as a regular!).

Hack Bauer, that pretty good!

[Troy McClure SF]

Originally Posted by John Mace

Maybe Collette has the plans to the power plant tattooed all over her body. We need to find out...

I volunteer.

[Monstre]

Originally Posted by Omniscient

I was in the preview for next weeks show.

Please review thread rules.

Originally Posted by Troy McClure SF

have we yet established that Chloe is Hack Bauer? Because we really should.

That's perfect!

Originally Posted by John Mace

Why didn't they increase the pressure in the gas lines right away to make the gas inert? Didn't little miss chemistry major remember that?

I was wondering that, too. Although maybe it wouldn't have nullified it in time before it started reaching homes...? Anyways, the entire gas center blowing up was awfully fun.

When Jack and team was first arriving in the chopper, my first thought was why rely on a strike team? Why not just scramble a couple of military fighters, a la season 3, and blow the place to kingdom come before they can get the gas flowing? Take out the nerve gas and the baddies (okay, and the "Geek Who Lived", as collateral damage) in one fell swoop.

Speaking of the chopper... Jack told the pilot to "stay right here". Think he did that? I mean, the whole place did start exploding, so that probably didn't become the best spot to hover...

[John Mace]

I have a sneaking suspicion that heads are going to roll when the SecDef shows up on the scene. Blondie Homeland Security chick is in deep doo-doo. But at least Audrey and little bro' can trade torture stories at family reunions!

How much time do we have left? Seems like the terrorists have more tricks up their sleeves, because they've got hours to kill before the season ends, no?

[HPL]

They're fast at CTU.

At the end of the last episode, Collette was squeling on audrey. At the beginning of this one, she's already being checked into CTU.

Not to mention it took a grand total of 5 minutes for Jack to walk off to the chopper to be over the gas facility.

Well, the Nerve Gas is gone. So what's gonna happen for the rest of the season?

I'm guessing now it's a matter of trying to catch henderson and get rid of Garner, but without a WMD hanging over their hands, can it work?

Also, who's the cute but paranoid CTU analyst? She looks familar.

[Monstre]

This was episode 15, so there are 9 left.

So now that the nerve gas is blown up, will the rest of the season be devoted to uncovering whatever conspiracy is behind it all, including getting Henderson, and maybe even the Vice Prez (as some of us suspect)? Or will there be another terrorist threat that surfaces?

All the nerve gas is gone or captured now, right?

[Monstre]

Originally Posted by HPL

Also, who's the cute but paranoid CTU analyst? She looks familar.

Kate Mara

[Omniscient]

Originally Posted by Excalibre

You're supposed to spoiler-box those.

Ah crap. Sorry folks. If a Mod wants to fix that it'd be appreciated.

[The Big Cheese]

Originally Posted by Monstre

Speaking of the chopper... Jack told the pilot to "stay right here". Think he did that? I mean, the whole place did start exploding, so that probably didn't become the best spot to hover...

When he said that, I thought he meant to hover at that spot, so they could slide down the ropes and not end up 20 feet above ground or something--not that that would stop Jack, even with broken ribs.

I couldn't tell at the end what happened. Was it Bauer that pulled Bierko into the car, or vice versa??

I loved the scene where Jack is running and the gas is exploding just behind him. I was laughing my head off. I still am.

[ChuckForbin]

Did anyone else notice that this week the clock matched the actual real time ? That is, it shows 9:16 and that was the real time. I wonder how often that happens.

Sorry, all I got.

[carnivorousplant]

Originally Posted by JThunder

the sexiest that Chloe has ever been

Surely you jest. My Grandmother has a sweater like that.

The music whilst (always wanted to say 'whilst') attacking the gas plant sounded like Doom II.

[Merijeek]

So...bullets and fists don't deter Jack Bauer at all...but he's been taken out twice in one day by a stun gun.

I think we've found his superhero weakness!

-Joe

[Finagle]

Audrey cleans up fast. Halfway through the episode, she's soaked in sweat as agony juice pours through her veins. Twenty minutes later as she watches Jack getting blowed up real good, she's completely recovered, bone dry, and hair combed. She's even tougher than Jack who can take a taser hit and be up and about seconds later.

I think this episode answered the question of how they get around the city so fast. If Jack can outrun a natural gas explosion, he probably gets around LA by jogging.

[carnivorousplant]

Originally Posted by Merijeek

So...bullets and fists don't deter Jack Bauer at all...but he's been taken out twice in one day by a stun gun.

I think we've found his superhero weakness!

-Joe

A 12 gauge firing reloads with hearing aid batteries instead of buckshot.

[c_goat]

Random thought - imagine a season during daylight savings time: "The following occurs between 2 AM and 2 AM."

What was that big place where they put all the canisters? I'm assuming it was full of gas, so wouldn't it be a bad idea to use a flashlight in there, in case of a spark?

I also don't understand why they don't just raise the pressure again. Or why there isn't an emergency cutoff valve. Or why they didn't just turn off the air conditioner at CTU. It's like everything in 24 world is controlled by computers and can't be manually stopped.

[JThunder]

Originally Posted by carnivorousplant

Surely you jest. My Grandmother has a sweater like that.

Clothing and physical traits aren't the only things that can be sexy, y'know.

Chloe showed braininess, compassion and toughness last night... a very appealing combination. And besides, while her outfit wasn't exceptionally attractive, it still showcases her new, lithe figure. (Rowr.)

[carnivorousplant]

Originally Posted by JThunder

Clothing and physical traits aren't the only things that can be sexy, y'know.

I suppose there is something to be said for a woman who knows not to click on "You've been selected to win a new laptop!", but it's that sour milk(TM) expression...

[JThunder]

So Curtis is Black Bauer and Chloe is Hack Bauer. IMO, as the only other crucial members of Team 24, they're the only ones that truly merit having Jack-esque nicknames. (Aaron Pierce could possibly deserve this as well, should he ever get transferred to CTU.)

However, I suppose that we could call the new psychochick Shari "Whacked Bauer." I have nickname in mind for daughter Kim as well, but I don't dare voice it in polite company.

[Skammer]

Chloe's response to "Did you see him brush my shoulder? That was so inappropriate!" was pricesless. She turned back to her monitor, eyes wide, like, "okayyyyyyy...."

[RancidYakButterTeaParty]

Alright, so I have watched 24 since season one faithfully and have always enjoyed reading these threads which point out the unbelievable parts of the show and so on. However, this season's endless wank fest of heart felt moments has been too much to take. I thought it might just be me until...

Last night my wife starts screaming at the TV for more violence! She didn't enjoy Jack lovin' on Audrey, or Audrey's reaction to Jack getting tazered. This is a woman that cries during Hallmark commericals, so it's not that she's insensitive. She just wants 24 to get on with 24 stuff, instead of turning into General Hospital with extra violence.

The problem with 24 now is that it goes overboard in EVERY aspect of the show. It used to be just the fact that Jack could not be killed. We are at the point now where he also has superhuman strength, recovery ability, and speed. He stops to take care of little girls who might die of poisoning in a heroic manner...blech.

Unfortunately the only attraction left in this show is the joy of making fun of it.

[phungi]

Originally Posted by Finagle

Audrey cleans up fast. Halfway through the episode, she's soaked in sweat as agony juice pours through her veins. Twenty minutes later as she watches Jack getting blowed up real good, she's completely recovered, bone dry, and hair combed.

It is clear that a single Jack Bauer kiss has tremendous healing power...

[Greywolf73]

Originally Posted by John Mace

I love the way Chloe was able to trace all of Audrey's movements over 18 months in about 2 minutes-- including e-mailing pictures to a hotel desk clerk.

Not only that, but the hotel desk clerk had already emailed back copies of receipts of their stay in less than 2 minutes.

I think the producers are focusing too much attention on Jack Bauer. They need to concentrate more on Chloe who can clearly manipulate time to suit her needs. In fact, I think the two of them should team up and form a Super Hero Super Duo (Jack and Hack!)

[carnivorousplant]

Originally Posted by RancidYakButterTeaParty

Last night my wife starts screaming at the TV for more violence! She didn't enjoy Jack lovin' on Audrey, or Audrey's reaction to Jack getting tazered.

Cool.

[Gangster Octopus]

OK, so they release the nerve gas into the natural gas system, but how is this supposed to kill 200,00 people exactly?

I am not digging the this psycho chick storyline. It just seems like they have to pile on complication after complication and it gets a bit tiresome.

Love the little psi gauge at the bottom of Chloe's computer. She seems very adept at monitoring dropping percentages in things (gas pressure, rubber seals).

[cbawlmer]

Originally Posted by RancidYakButterTeaParty

Unfortunately the only attraction left in this show is the joy of making fun of it.

Seriously! 24 used to be a good show that made us be quiet and not yell derisive comments at the screen. Not anymore!

I'm with your wife on all of that. I'm a woman; I've also cried during Hallmark commercials, and I love kittens. But damn, this show is supposed to be about kicking ass and blowing stuff up and I can't care about any of the Jack-and-Audrey stuff because she annoys the crap out of me. Blowing up an entire natural gas plant doesn't make up for the pianos and violins intruding on my good time. Blech.

[Dob]

Unfortunately the only attraction left in this show is the joy of making fun of it.

Holy crap. You better not let Jack hear you say that...is that a knock at your door??

[John Mace]

Originally Posted by Monstre

This was episode 15, so there are 9 left.

So now that the nerve gas is blown up, will the rest of the season be devoted to uncovering whatever conspiracy is behind it all, including getting Henderson, and maybe even the Vice Prez (as some of us suspect)? Or will there be another terrorist threat that surfaces?

All the nerve gas is gone or captured now, right?

I expect another twist where the gas attacks were just a diversion. Maybe there is a coup being orchestrated-- not that getting rid of President Wishy-washy would be all that bad. I just think we haven't gotten to the bottom of the folks infiltrated the executive branch yet.